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what is missed is the big picture of IU's NCAA failures from 1995-2000. Knight burned his teams out by late in the season and they simply quit on him. I've heard numerous stories from ex players during this era that they simply had "had enough" of Knight and his BS. They wanted to get the season over as sooon as possible just to get away from him.
Mostly because Knight abandoned recruiting less talented but mentally stronger players in favor of athletes after the 93 class graduated. He realized his error and recruited smarter but less physically gifted players after the Patterson/Hart/Wilkerson/Miller and Davis took them to the NC game.
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
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what is missed is the big picture of IU's NCAA failures from 1995-2000. Knight burned his teams out by late in the season and they simply quit on him. I've heard numerous stories from ex players during this era that they simply had "had enough" of Knight and his BS. They wanted to get the season over as sooon as possible just to get away from him.
Mostly because Knight abandoned recruiting less talented but mentally stronger players in favor of athletes after the 93 class graduated. He realized his error and recruited smarter but less physically gifted players after the Patterson/Hart/Wilkerson/Miller and Davis took them to the NC game.
best post in an otherwise worthless thread.
Damn, I was hoping my long post about the 87 team would have won 'best post'...........
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
I nominate this post as your 10th dumbest of the last 2 weeks......well wait, you had about 25 of those in one thread. OK, how about 26th dumbest of the last 2 weeks. You are coming close to reaching dcramps on the laughability scale.

Your rotation shortens in the tournament so they would be OK going 7 deep, since a lot of other teams do the same thing. Alford, Smart, Calloway, Thomas, Garrett, Eyl, and Hillman. I doubt you really know anything about the 87 team, so let me help you out.

Thomas played center the year before, so if Garrett gets into foul trouble they could go small and still compete. Calloway didn't really play all that well in the tournament, and I've always wondered how much of that was due to his knee that was wrapped up like a mummy. Eyl could play any position on the floor, and almost always made the correct play.......Hillman was just as smart and was a pain in the ass on the defensive end despite his size disadvantage(ask Bernard Woodside...yeah, I'm guessing you have no idea who that is either). Alford closes out any close game from the foul line, and plays for one of the best screening(mostly illegal)teams I've ever seen. Smart is inconsistent, but he was just as solid as most guards in the country this year.

The 87 team wouldn't beat themselves and most teams this year either make tons of poor decisions offensively or decide they are good enough offensively to not have to play defense. The 87 team would win atleast 2 tourney games. They ran with UNLV and knocked them off, scoring 97 points, and that UNLV team would match up favorably with most teams in the country this year despite having a PG who shoots just as poorly as DMoore. If IU would have gotten to play Providence in the Final Four instead of UNLV, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been fresher.....Syracuse would have been more worn out.....and IU wins that game by atleast 7. There is no way Triche, Monroe, or Douglass could chase Alford all night long through the forest of screens after chasing Freddie Banks, getting pounded by Gilliam, and running with UNLV 2 nights before.
WOW just wow evil.

Can I come to IU past land it must be a nice place in there.
You bring up the 87 team, I tell you exactly what type of team they are, and then you try to poke fun for living in "IU pastland"? Stop being a douche. You keep starting conversations about things you know nothing about. Just go back and take your seat at the kiddie table(Purdue board), and let the grown ups talk. Your ignorance is becoming a nuisance.
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atleast he isn't the dumbest Corky..........do I owe UB a royalty for using his favorite word outside of Turdue?
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That is really funny UB

That is the kind of stuff u do that makes me laugh
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
I nominate this post as your 10th dumbest of the last 2 weeks......well wait, you had about 25 of those in one thread. OK, how about 26th dumbest of the last 2 weeks. You are coming close to reaching dcramps on the laughability scale.

Your rotation shortens in the tournament so they would be OK going 7 deep, since a lot of other teams do the same thing. Alford, Smart, Calloway, Thomas, Garrett, Eyl, and Hillman. I doubt you really know anything about the 87 team, so let me help you out.

Thomas played center the year before, so if Garrett gets into foul trouble they could go small and still compete. Calloway didn't really play all that well in the tournament, and I've always wondered how much of that was due to his knee that was wrapped up like a mummy. Eyl could play any position on the floor, and almost always made the correct play.......Hillman was just as smart and was a pain in the ass on the defensive end despite his size disadvantage(ask Bernard Woodside...yeah, I'm guessing you have no idea who that is either). Alford closes out any close game from the foul line, and plays for one of the best screening(mostly illegal)teams I've ever seen. Smart is inconsistent, but he was just as solid as most guards in the country this year.

The 87 team wouldn't beat themselves and most teams this year either make tons of poor decisions offensively or decide they are good enough offensively to not have to play defense. The 87 team would win atleast 2 tourney games. They ran with UNLV and knocked them off, scoring 97 points, and that UNLV team would match up favorably with most teams in the country this year despite having a PG who shoots just as poorly as DMoore. If IU would have gotten to play Providence in the Final Four instead of UNLV, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been fresher.....Syracuse would have been more worn out.....and IU wins that game by atleast 7. There is no way Triche, Monroe, or Douglass could chase Alford all night long through the forest of screens after chasing Freddie Banks, getting pounded by Gilliam, and running with UNLV 2 nights before.
WOW just wow evil.

Can I come to IU past land it must be a nice place in there.
You bring up the 87 team, I tell you exactly what type of team they are, and then you try to poke fun for living in "IU pastland"? Stop being a douche. You keep starting conversations about things you know nothing about. Just go back and take your seat at the kiddie table(Purdue board), and let the grown ups talk. Your ignorance is becoming a nuisance.
the '87 team was better than any turdue team in the past 40+ years.


hell, we kept hearing about this current turdue bunch led by supposed POY Brokeback Homely being a final four and national title contender. Last I checked, they've lost 7 games in a mediocre league


that sums up turdue sports perfectly
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atleast he isn't the dumbest Corky..........do I owe UB a royalty for using his favorite word outside of Turdue?
nah - just use appropriately or everytime you address a turdue misfit
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
I nominate this post as your 10th dumbest of the last 2 weeks......well wait, you had about 25 of those in one thread. OK, how about 26th dumbest of the last 2 weeks. You are coming close to reaching dcramps on the laughability scale.

Your rotation shortens in the tournament so they would be OK going 7 deep, since a lot of other teams do the same thing. Alford, Smart, Calloway, Thomas, Garrett, Eyl, and Hillman. I doubt you really know anything about the 87 team, so let me help you out.

Thomas played center the year before, so if Garrett gets into foul trouble they could go small and still compete. Calloway didn't really play all that well in the tournament, and I've always wondered how much of that was due to his knee that was wrapped up like a mummy. Eyl could play any position on the floor, and almost always made the correct play.......Hillman was just as smart and was a pain in the ass on the defensive end despite his size disadvantage(ask Bernard Woodside...yeah, I'm guessing you have no idea who that is either). Alford closes out any close game from the foul line, and plays for one of the best screening(mostly illegal)teams I've ever seen. Smart is inconsistent, but he was just as solid as most guards in the country this year.

The 87 team wouldn't beat themselves and most teams this year either make tons of poor decisions offensively or decide they are good enough offensively to not have to play defense. The 87 team would win atleast 2 tourney games. They ran with UNLV and knocked them off, scoring 97 points, and that UNLV team would match up favorably with most teams in the country this year despite having a PG who shoots just as poorly as DMoore. If IU would have gotten to play Providence in the Final Four instead of UNLV, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been fresher.....Syracuse would have been more worn out.....and IU wins that game by atleast 7. There is no way Triche, Monroe, or Douglass could chase Alford all night long through the forest of screens after chasing Freddie Banks, getting pounded by Gilliam, and running with UNLV 2 nights before.
WOW just wow evil.

Can I come to IU past land it must be a nice place in there.
You bring up the 87 team, I tell you exactly what type of team they are, and then you try to poke fun for living in "IU pastland"? Stop being a douche. You keep starting conversations about things you know nothing about. Just go back and take your seat at the kiddie table(Purdue board), and let the grown ups talk. Your ignorance is becoming a nuisance.
Evil,

So what makes you the great keeper of IU memories. I remember the 1987 run pretty well. IU beat Duke in the sweet 16 and LSU to goto the final four. They played the games in Ciny and the final four was in New orleans. Just because I am a Purdue fan does not mean I didn't watch basketball 22 years ago. You forgot Brian Sloan played on the team and Tood Meijer. The 87 team would not be a lock to the sweet 16 this year. It is crazy to believe that they might win but no lock. Basketball is not down but the average player today is better than the average player 22 years ago. The mid range game has probably went away. The game has changed a little but the talent level per team is higher. SO go fuck yourself
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
I nominate this post as your 10th dumbest of the last 2 weeks......well wait, you had about 25 of those in one thread. OK, how about 26th dumbest of the last 2 weeks. You are coming close to reaching dcramps on the laughability scale.

Your rotation shortens in the tournament so they would be OK going 7 deep, since a lot of other teams do the same thing. Alford, Smart, Calloway, Thomas, Garrett, Eyl, and Hillman. I doubt you really know anything about the 87 team, so let me help you out.

Thomas played center the year before, so if Garrett gets into foul trouble they could go small and still compete. Calloway didn't really play all that well in the tournament, and I've always wondered how much of that was due to his knee that was wrapped up like a mummy. Eyl could play any position on the floor, and almost always made the correct play.......Hillman was just as smart and was a pain in the ass on the defensive end despite his size disadvantage(ask Bernard Woodside...yeah, I'm guessing you have no idea who that is either). Alford closes out any close game from the foul line, and plays for one of the best screening(mostly illegal)teams I've ever seen. Smart is inconsistent, but he was just as solid as most guards in the country this year.

The 87 team wouldn't beat themselves and most teams this year either make tons of poor decisions offensively or decide they are good enough offensively to not have to play defense. The 87 team would win atleast 2 tourney games. They ran with UNLV and knocked them off, scoring 97 points, and that UNLV team would match up favorably with most teams in the country this year despite having a PG who shoots just as poorly as DMoore. If IU would have gotten to play Providence in the Final Four instead of UNLV, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been fresher.....Syracuse would have been more worn out.....and IU wins that game by atleast 7. There is no way Triche, Monroe, or Douglass could chase Alford all night long through the forest of screens after chasing Freddie Banks, getting pounded by Gilliam, and running with UNLV 2 nights before.
WOW just wow evil.

Can I come to IU past land it must be a nice place in there.
You bring up the 87 team, I tell you exactly what type of team they are, and then you try to poke fun for living in "IU pastland"? Stop being a douche. You keep starting conversations about things you know nothing about. Just go back and take your seat at the kiddie table(Purdue board), and let the grown ups talk. Your ignorance is becoming a nuisance.
Evil,

So what makes you the great keeper of IU memories. I remember the 1987 run pretty well. IU beat Duke in the sweet 16 and LSU to goto the final four. They played the games in Ciny and the final four was in New orleans. Just because I am a Purdue fan does not mean I didn't watch basketball 22 years ago. You forgot Brian Sloan played on the team and Tood Meijer. The 87 team would not be a lock to the sweet 16 this year. It is crazy to believe that they might win but no lock. Basketball is not down but the average player today is better than the average player 22 years ago. The mid range game has probably went away. The game has changed a little but the talent level per team is higher. SO go fuck yourself
guys were older, better b-ball IQ and better fundamentals.

IU played against numerous NBA players in their run to the title. they would be a lock to make the final 4 this year and about any year.


give me talented 4 year senior over a bunch of more athletic sophs and freshmen that are more concerned about dunking and what mink coat they'll wear to the post game press conference
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First of all, Sloan and Meier didn't play much at all in the tournament(when it mattered), which is why they were left off my list.

So you start off by saying that I should admit that the 87 team wouldn't get out of the 2nd round. I say they can, and then you say I can't call that a lock(your words, not mine).........but it's perfectly fine for you to say that it's a lock that they CANT make it out of the 2nd round. You are an idiot. What did you do, look up the 87 tourney real quick to see who they played?.....that's my guess. I've seen those games against Duke, LSU, UNLV, and SYR many times. Instead of obsessing with an IU team that would crush every Purdue team over the last 20 years, why don't you start making a list of excuses why Purdue won't see a regional final let alone a final four this year.

The athletes may be better, the refs may let players get away with palming/traveling more, but the actual basketball IQ and fundamentals are down. Go ahead and make a list of the top 20 draft picks that will be in this year's NBA draft(include any college player just to help you out)and compare it to the talent of almost any other year over the last 20.
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Evil Face it the 1987 team would not get out of the second round this year
I nominate this post as your 10th dumbest of the last 2 weeks......well wait, you had about 25 of those in one thread. OK, how about 26th dumbest of the last 2 weeks. You are coming close to reaching dcramps on the laughability scale.

Your rotation shortens in the tournament so they would be OK going 7 deep, since a lot of other teams do the same thing. Alford, Smart, Calloway, Thomas, Garrett, Eyl, and Hillman. I doubt you really know anything about the 87 team, so let me help you out.

Thomas played center the year before, so if Garrett gets into foul trouble they could go small and still compete. Calloway didn't really play all that well in the tournament, and I've always wondered how much of that was due to his knee that was wrapped up like a mummy. Eyl could play any position on the floor, and almost always made the correct play.......Hillman was just as smart and was a pain in the ass on the defensive end despite his size disadvantage(ask Bernard Woodside...yeah, I'm guessing you have no idea who that is either). Alford closes out any close game from the foul line, and plays for one of the best screening(mostly illegal)teams I've ever seen. Smart is inconsistent, but he was just as solid as most guards in the country this year.

The 87 team wouldn't beat themselves and most teams this year either make tons of poor decisions offensively or decide they are good enough offensively to not have to play defense. The 87 team would win atleast 2 tourney games. They ran with UNLV and knocked them off, scoring 97 points, and that UNLV team would match up favorably with most teams in the country this year despite having a PG who shoots just as poorly as DMoore. If IU would have gotten to play Providence in the Final Four instead of UNLV, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have been fresher.....Syracuse would have been more worn out.....and IU wins that game by atleast 7. There is no way Triche, Monroe, or Douglass could chase Alford all night long through the forest of screens after chasing Freddie Banks, getting pounded by Gilliam, and running with UNLV 2 nights before.
WOW just wow evil.

Can I come to IU past land it must be a nice place in there.
You bring up the 87 team, I tell you exactly what type of team they are, and then you try to poke fun for living in "IU pastland"? Stop being a douche. You keep starting conversations about things you know nothing about. Just go back and take your seat at the kiddie table(Purdue board), and let the grown ups talk. Your ignorance is becoming a nuisance.
Evil,

So what makes you the great keeper of IU memories. I remember the 1987 run pretty well. IU beat Duke in the sweet 16 and LSU to goto the final four. They played the games in Ciny and the final four was in New orleans. Just because I am a Purdue fan does not mean I didn't watch basketball 22 years ago. You forgot Brian Sloan played on the team and Tood Meijer. The 87 team would not be a lock to the sweet 16 this year. It is crazy to believe that they might win but no lock. Basketball is not down but the average player today is better than the average player 22 years ago. The mid range game has probably went away. The game has changed a little but the talent level per team is higher. SO go fuck yourself
guys were older, better b-ball IQ and better fundamentals.

IU played against numerous NBA players in their run to the title. they would be a lock to make the final 4 this year and about any year.


give me talented 4 year senior over a bunch of more athletic sophs and freshmen that are more concerned about dunking and what mink coat they'll wear to the post game press conference
go ahead and add that to the post I just put up. Well, I wouldn't guarantee a final four simply because everybody is capable of losing after the 1st round. I'd definitely give them a good chance against just about anyone this year. It's like the old guy at the Y mowing down younger, more athletic players.
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That's a good point about the NBA draft. It's going to be dreadful this year. In my short 23 years of living, this is going to be arguably the worst draft ever. Griffin would probably be a top 5 most years, but after that, forget about it.
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