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| Mr Gray | Jun 8 2009, 12:29 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31106408/ I'm so glad they reported this quote, because I think we all distinctively remember Obama saying it.
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![]() The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism. | |
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| dreachon | Jun 8 2009, 12:54 PM Post #2 |
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Slick political talk there. Obama certainly knows how to talk his way around obstacles. Notice he trashes McCain for wanting to tax health care benefits, but doesn't say that he won't do it. Smooth little sucker. |
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| boilergrad01 | Jun 8 2009, 01:30 PM Post #3 |
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Dreach, The funny thing was McCain was talking about a tax credit not taxing the benefit. What you call smooth I call more of the same. President Obama was a great candidate but like 99% he has proven to be more rhetoric not substance. Not change that can be believed in. Slick to one man is dishonesty to another. |
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| dreachon | Jun 8 2009, 01:44 PM Post #4 |
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McCain's tax credit was going to be funded by taxing the health benefits. That's what Obama was talking about. |
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| Mr Gray | Jun 8 2009, 01:46 PM Post #5 |
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McCain's plan was going to consider health benefits as "income" in terms of your withholding on your paycheck, but everyone was going to get a tax credit to use when they filed their return, aimed at making it more proportionately distributed to all citizens. Obama forgot the 2nd part apparently. |
![]() The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism. | |
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| boilergrad01 | Jun 8 2009, 01:59 PM Post #6 |
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Dreach, let me get this right on the Bball side you hate Coach Cal becuase he might cheat= lyinng and plays in the grey area. President Obama you admit was slick and so damn smart he decieved the people of the US about taxes but that is a good move. HMMM cheating in basketball > lying to the nation on the trail. interesting logic |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Jun 8 2009, 02:11 PM Post #7 |
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:rofl: :rofl: Just doesnt seem right....... |
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| thePhilosopher | Jun 8 2009, 02:28 PM Post #8 |
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Guys, it is just a way to keep healthcare costs down. We've all seen what a great job the gov't does at keeping down costs. After all, they did subsidize college tuition, and that hasn't risen at all over the past couple of decades. We need to keep entitlement costs down by ADDING entitlement programs, like universal healthcare, and taxing people for things they aren't yet taxed on! Like soda, or trans-fats, or carbon, or their own health care! /sarcasm |
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| dreachon | Jun 8 2009, 03:12 PM Post #9 |
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Please point to where I said Obama's slickness was a "good thing". If you're looking for me to say, "OMG I love Obama so much I'm sure if he's lying to us it's only for our own good" then you will be sorely dissapointed. Nowhere did I say it was good and nowhere did I approve of it. Keep grasping at straws though. |
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| Mr Gray | Jun 8 2009, 03:17 PM Post #10 |
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Good call Phil...the federal government always keeps costs down. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/12/business/econwatch/entry5007862.shtml
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| IUCOLTFAN | Jun 8 2009, 04:06 PM Post #11 |
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More overhead = less cost????? Makes alot of fucking sense.........our government is fucking braindead! Just another reason the government should keep its hands off of private businesses......they have no fucking clue what they are doing! Edited by IUCOLTFAN, Jun 8 2009, 04:07 PM.
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| boilergrad01 | Jun 8 2009, 06:15 PM Post #12 |
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Dreach, So you are admitting President Obama is a liar and a fraud??????? |
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| eelbor | Jun 8 2009, 06:44 PM Post #13 |
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Is he a politician? Is a bear Catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods? |
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| dreachon | Jun 8 2009, 07:23 PM Post #14 |
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Exactly. If you would have asked me any point before during or after the election if Obama would lie at all, not fulfill all is campaign promises or engage in political games, I would have said absolutely. It is, unfortunately, the nature of politics. |
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| brumdog44 | Jun 8 2009, 07:44 PM Post #15 |
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Maybe not....but let's examine what private industry has done of late as well. Seems to me that there have been an awful lot of businesses run into the ground by illogical short-sighted ventures. |
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