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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 12:00 AM Post #1 |
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thanks to our outstanding law enforcement personnel, a dangerous terrorist was taken into custody a month ago. i even have video of the incident. this fine trooper from the great state of texas had to resort to using his taser, but thank God he wasnt hurt. nevermind that the "terrorist" was posing as a 72-year old grandmother (but, we all know how they lie), and the trooper looks to be approximately 6'4" and perhaps 235 lbs. she was doing 60 mph in a 45 mph construction zone and failed to sign the speeding ticket. we can all breath easier tonight. thank you patriot act, i feel proud of being an american during difficult times like these. |
![]() "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."--Henry Kissinger "What luck for rulers that men do not think."- Adolph Hitler "Terrorists don't want your freedoms--they want your life. It's dictators and tyrants who want your freedoms."-author unidentified | |
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| dreachon | Jun 13 2009, 12:35 AM Post #2 |
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This is why she was tasered. The question I have is are cops being trained to use the taser in place of physical force? If departments are teaching cops to taser people instead of physically forcing them to do whatever it is they need them to do, then it's the rules that need to be changed, not the cop. Edited by dreachon, Jun 13 2009, 12:38 AM.
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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 12:45 AM Post #3 |
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do what? dont give me that bullshit. a 28 yr old 6-4 235 lb cop has no reason to taser a 72 yr old woman. EVER. (unless shes armed). especially when you review the video and see where she reconsidered and asked to sign due to HIS aggressive nature. all he had to do was use his fucking brain and say, "okay, i see youre willing to cooperate. heres the ticket." fuck that pig. and they wonder why people call them that? |
![]() "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."--Henry Kissinger "What luck for rulers that men do not think."- Adolph Hitler "Terrorists don't want your freedoms--they want your life. It's dictators and tyrants who want your freedoms."-author unidentified | |
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| dreachon | Jun 13 2009, 12:53 AM Post #4 |
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You completely didn't address the point. If you are a cop and are told that you can be suspended or fired or whatever for physically forcing a suspect when you could have easily tasered them, which will you do? Now maybe that's not the case here, which is why I asked the question. If his department is forcing him to use a taser in lieu of physical force, then it's got nothing to do with the cop and everything to do with the rule. |
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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 01:13 AM Post #5 |
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cops are still guided by instinct and common sense. neither was used here. NEITHER physical force or a taser was required here. the lady tried to hold her ground on the ticket, then realized she better comply with the SS officer. you can hear her say, "okay, ill sign the ticket." at that point this situation should have been resolved. why in the fuck he pushed it to the point he did is unknown. you will never convince me he felt threatened. |
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| dreachon | Jun 13 2009, 10:46 AM Post #6 |
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Sure sure. She says, "Give me the fucking thing and I'll sign it." And then the officer was supposed to say, "Well I can see you're willing to cooperate." Meanwhile, they are still standing in the road and so even pushes her to the side so they don't get killed. At no point afterwards does she say she will sign it. All the while she's saying, "I'm a 72 year old woman." Like somehow being 72 means she can be a bitch and put an officer's life in danger. Something tells me if this was a video of some guy and he said, "Go ahead and tase me, I'm Jewish!" Your argument would be VERY different right now. |
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| yawnzzz | Jun 13 2009, 10:46 AM Post #7 |
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How exactly does this have anything to do with terrorists or the Patriot Act? I'm pretty sure speeding and resisting arrest were illegal a decade ago. |
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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 10:57 PM Post #8 |
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i cannot comprehend that you approve of this behavior. the fact you brought up the jewish reference makes me laugh. how does a 72 yr old woman compare to AIPAC? nice try. i know your kind when i see it. |
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| brumdog44 | Jun 13 2009, 11:19 PM Post #9 |
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Sorry, trouble, but I can't side with you on this one. Multiple warnings yielded non-compliance and resulted in her going so far as to saying she was going to leave. Could he have handcuffed and taken her in? Sure. But I don't think that would have changed your view of the situation -- I think you would say how he manhandled a 72 year old woman. And if department policy is to tase someone who is resisting arrest, then the officer followed policy. On a seperate note, she seems like a real douchebag (obviously not an arrestable offense, or all UK fans would be in jail). She sure seemed to think her being a 72 year old woman gave her special priviledges and her version of 'not being argumentative and non-compliant' weren't true. |
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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 11:32 PM Post #10 |
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i dont discount anything both of you have said. but a taser? no way. you cannot excuse that behavior. a taser is non-lethal punishment for a situation that could spiral out of control. this lady didnt constitute that threat. the officer clearly didnt use his instinct and common sense. can you really convince me he did? im open to your attempt. |
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| brumdog44 | Jun 13 2009, 11:38 PM Post #11 |
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One thing we have to face is that society has become incredibly litigious...in which case, logic and common sense have been thrown out the window and replaced with following procedure. If procedure is followed, then the department as opposed to the individual is responsible for any damages. If it simply was a case of where an overzealous officer was taze happy, I seriously doubt he would have given five warnings. It was obvious that tazing was not his first instinct, which leads me to believe that he was put into a position where he had to follow departmental policy. Have you ever done something that seemed illogical because it was a company directive as opposed to common sense? |
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| troubleatiu | Jun 13 2009, 11:48 PM Post #12 |
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"Have you ever done something that seemed illogical because it was a company directive as opposed to common sense?"- brumdog no. i also realize that mentality cost me my job. im willing to take a common sense stand; where is everybody else? |
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| brumdog44 | Jun 14 2009, 12:58 AM Post #13 |
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My common sense has said that I have to pick my battles. Not saying this is related to the incident in this thread. Anyway, I am sure that when you were in the armed forces that you did follow orders that you felt were illogical. |
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| Scoutin1 | Jun 14 2009, 02:23 PM Post #14 |
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That video was awesome; loved it! Bottom line: grandma deserved to get exactly what see got. It all started to go wrong when she tells the cop to take her to jail -- most generally, if you tell a cop to take you to jail, they're happy to grant your request. And then, it only continued to deteriorate because of her blatant disregard of, and disrespect for, the badge. Once she told the cop she was going to just leave, you knew it was on. Belligerent grandmas everywhere: use this as a lesson; you're not above the law. |
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| dreachon | Jun 14 2009, 02:46 PM Post #15 |
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