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brumdog44 Jul 10 2009, 07:47 PM Post #31
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As I stated, I'm not for or against Palin, but for Dreach and Brum to ACT like liberals are treated the same as conservatives in the media........its fucking laughable and shows their blind liberal bias or their utter stupidity.
Please.

Count the number of posts I have started whose sole subject is to bash a republican and compare it to the number of posts you have started where the sole subject is to bash a democrat.

Is television media at least slightly biased toward liberals (with the exception of FOX)? Sure. It's the opposite on radio, which I guess doesn't count as media in republicans' eyes for some reason.

Continually playing the victim card is a losing proposition. It's killed PETA and it's a huge reason for backlash against the NAACP. Republicans talking about the liberal media bias is counterproductive...it's kind of like telling the judge before he sentences you that you think he is a jerk.
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IUCOLTFAN Jul 11 2009, 09:50 AM Post #32
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As I stated, I'm not for or against Palin, but for Dreach and Brum to ACT like liberals are treated the same as conservatives in the media........its fucking laughable and shows their blind liberal bias or their utter stupidity.
Please.

Count the number of posts I have started whose sole subject is to bash a republican and compare it to the number of posts you have started where the sole subject is to bash a democrat.

Is television media at least slightly biased toward liberals (with the exception of FOX)? Sure. It's the opposite on radio, which I guess doesn't count as media in republicans' eyes for some reason.

Continually playing the victim card is a losing proposition. It's killed PETA and it's a huge reason for backlash against the NAACP. Republicans talking about the liberal media bias is counterproductive...it's kind of like telling the judge before he sentences you that you think he is a jerk.
1. television media is far from "slightly biased". whats the percentage of people who get their politics from television compared to radio? Its not the 40's anymore.

2. so how is the constant Bush-bashing not "counter productive"? Maybe the Dems should quit talking about "moving in a new direction" one minute and talking about all their "inherited" problems the next minute? That seems the definition of "counter productive" to me. (see Corzine's current campaign.......and a few other threatened Dems). If Americans voted for a new direction Because of Bush, I'm quite sure they are getting a little tired of hearing his name every 5 seconds. If they have the plan, they should lead. But its really just about getting re-elected. :-/
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No doubt it's about getting re-elected.

In terms of your television/radio analogy, here's a pretty good study. A little bit old (2004), but has a nice breakdown. http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=834

The dangerous part is that I think that the amount of people getting their news on the internet has went through the roof. This is not a bad thing as long as people recognize what are good and bad sources; unfortunately, I think as a society people tend to only look for sources that are saying what we want to hear. A right-leaning or left-leaning internet source has a much stronger chance of survival than one that actually just reports facts.
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I have to give my 2 cents here, since everyone knows that I was a Palin supporter. I'll break it down and make it simple.

1) If she is leaving because she doesn't want the State of Alaska to have to spend any more money on legal costs to defend her, I admire that

2) If she is leaving because the personal attacks on her family have caused damage that she feels may or has become irreparable to her family, I empathize & admire that. I also would not let anything tear my family apart if I could control it.

3) If she is leaving because of an impending scandal yet to be released, that is dispicable

4) If she is leaving to prepare herself for a Presidential (or other office) run, that is irresponsible selfish behavior which I don't respect.


In any of these scenarios I will not be voting for her for any major office. Even though I respect #1 & #2, and I agree with much of what Palin represents, there are multiple factors involved in choosing a leader, and one of them is certainly confidence in the fact that he/she will stick around until the job is done. I don't hold it against her whatsoever, I just wouldn't choose her to lead a major office which impacts my life.
This actually made sense.

What did you do with the real aaronk? :P
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I think she has great potential to raise huge amounts of money for the party and conservative PAC's.
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I have to give my 2 cents here, since everyone knows that I was a Palin supporter. I'll break it down and make it simple.

1) If she is leaving because she doesn't want the State of Alaska to have to spend any more money on legal costs to defend her, I admire that

2) If she is leaving because the personal attacks on her family have caused damage that she feels may or has become irreparable to her family, I empathize & admire that. I also would not let anything tear my family apart if I could control it.

3) If she is leaving because of an impending scandal yet to be released, that is dispicable

4) If she is leaving to prepare herself for a Presidential (or other office) run, that is irresponsible selfish behavior which I don't respect.


In any of these scenarios I will not be voting for her for any major office. Even though I respect #1 & #2, and I agree with much of what Palin represents, there are multiple factors involved in choosing a leader, and one of them is certainly confidence in the fact that he/she will stick around until the job is done. I don't hold it against her whatsoever, I just wouldn't choose her to lead a major office which impacts my life.
This actually made sense.

What did you do with the real aaronk? :P
same aaronk chops.....you would probably find more in common with me if we avoid abortion and dinosaurs... :D
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As I stated, I'm not for or against Palin, but for Dreach and Brum to ACT like liberals are treated the same as conservatives in the media........its fucking laughable and shows their blind liberal bias or their utter stupidity.
Please.

Count the number of posts I have started whose sole subject is to bash a republican and compare it to the number of posts you have started where the sole subject is to bash a democrat.

Is television media at least slightly biased toward liberals (with the exception of FOX)? Sure. It's the opposite on radio, which I guess doesn't count as media in republicans' eyes for some reason.

Continually playing the victim card is a losing proposition. It's killed PETA and it's a huge reason for backlash against the NAACP. Republicans talking about the liberal media bias is counterproductive...it's kind of like telling the judge before he sentences you that you think he is a jerk.
Brum, I have a question for you. Knowing what you know now, would you vote the same way again in the Presidential primary & general? Keep in mind that the Congress would still be Democrat and with a Republican President we would have a better shot at more reasonble, compromised legislation, or a stalemate on controversial legislation.
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Yes, I probably would, or I would have looked at other third party or write-ins. If you are asking if I regret not voting for a McCain/Palin ticket, the answer is 100% that I do not.
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