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OT: Notre Dame Football billboard; Worth a chuckle
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brumdog44 Sep 3 2009, 05:19 PM Post #61
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Hoosier --

Three years in, Weis' team at ND lost more games than ANY ND TEAM IN HISTORY.

If that happened to Crean at IU, we'd be throwing him under the bus.
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Weis's dumbass has been there for what, like 4 years now? WE hasn't won shit with his players, in 4 years, i'll be judging Hope too.

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Therein lies the problem. When Ty went 6-6 in his third season under similar circumstances, we kept hearing about how he "wasn't recruiting". Yet Chuck went 3-9 his third season and the excuses have been flowing ever since.
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Weis's dumbass has been there for what, like 4 years now? WE hasn't won shit with his players, in 4 years, i'll be judging Hope too.

It's my opinion that if Hope goes 3-9 and *6-6 in his third and fourth seasons, he will return for a fifth season...but will have an associate head coach on the sideline ready to take over after that.

* - Purdue would not play in a bowl game with a 6-6 record.
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Hoosier --

Three years in, Weis' team at ND lost more games than ANY ND TEAM IN HISTORY.

If that happened to Crean at IU, we'd be throwing him under the bus.
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I am not trying to sit here and blow smoke and say he us a great coach and that he is meeting expectations. He's not, and he hasn't.
There ARE extenuating circumstances though, just like there are with Crean, and just like there are with HOpe this year.

All i am saying is that it is hypocritical to extend the benefit of the doubt to one coach because of his predecessor's short-comings, but not another.
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Hoosier --

Three years in, Weis' team at ND lost more games than ANY ND TEAM IN HISTORY.

If that happened to Crean at IU, we'd be throwing him under the bus.
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I am not trying to sit here and blow smoke and say he us a great coach and that he is meeting expectations. He's not, and he hasn't.
There ARE extenuating circumstances though, just like there are with Crean.

All i am saying is that it is hypocritical to extend the benefit of the doubt to one coach because of his predecessor's short-comings, but not another.
Thats the thing though the first two years with the previous coaches players they went to BSC bowl games.
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Thats the thing though the first two years with the previous coaches players they went to BSC bowl games.

So what's the point? Weis can take marginally talented veteran teams to BCS games. He can't take young inexperienced, though supposedly more talented teams anywhere. As i said, he is a marginal coach until he proves different. That still doesn't refute my original point.

There were a number of reasons why Notre Dame went 3-9 in 2007. Poor coaching certainly played its part. But anyone that says lack of experience and depth (both direct result of the previous staff) didn't play a large part either doesn't know football or are biased because of their disliking of ND.

SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.

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Thats the thing though the first two years with the previous coaches players they went to BSC bowl games.

So what's the point? Weis can take marginally talented veteran teams to BCS games. He can't take young inexperienced, though supposedly more talented teams anywhere. As i said, he is a marginal coach until he proves different. That still doesn't refute my original point.

There were a number of reasons why Notre Dame went 3-9 in 2007. Poor coaching certainly played its part. But anyone that says lack of experience and depth (both direct result of the previous staff) didn't play a large part either doesn't know football or are biased because of their disliking of ND.

SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.

last year, he had three recruiting classes (top-10) that could have contributed....when does he stop getting a free pass, when his first class are seniors?

Only thing last year missing was some seniors that u can blame on TY
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Thats the thing though the first two years with the previous coaches players they went to BSC bowl games.

So what's the point? Weis can take marginally talented veteran teams to BCS games. He can't take young inexperienced, though supposedly more talented teams anywhere. As i said, he is a marginal coach until he proves different. That still doesn't refute my original point.

There were a number of reasons why Notre Dame went 3-9 in 2007. Poor coaching certainly played its part. But anyone that says lack of experience and depth (both direct result of the previous staff) didn't play a large part either doesn't know football or are biased because of their disliking of ND.

SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.

My point is how can you compare Weis sitution to Creans.
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last year, he had three recruiting classes (top-10) that could have contributed....when does he stop getting a free pass, when his first class are seniors?

Only thing last year missing was some seniors that u can blame on TY[/quote]Free pass? Where were you last year? Weis got a lot of criticism - both inside and outside of the program. I can tell you, there were a lot of ND fans calling for his job, and there are a lot more beyond that while they weren't calling for it, wouldn't have batted an eye had he been fired.

If he is getting such a free pass, then why is he regularly listed at or near the top of the hot-seat list?
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SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.
There are no excuses for going 3-9 in a third season. First season definitely, second season maybe. But not third.
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last year, he had three recruiting classes (top-10) that could have contributed....when does he stop getting a free pass, when his first class are seniors?

Only thing last year missing was some seniors that u can blame on TY
Free pass? Where were you last year? Weis got a lot of criticism - both inside and outside of the program. I can tell you, there were a lot of ND fans calling for his job, and there are a lot more beyond that while they weren't calling for it, wouldn't have batted an eye had he been fired.

If he is getting such a free pass, then why is he regularly listed at or near the top of the hot-seat list? [/quote]you are, you are saying i'm giving hope the benefit of the doubt and not weis.

Last year was Weis's 4th fucking year actually. His first recruits were Seniors last year.

Not judging Hope for NEXT SEASON, isn't outrageous, when his first class are seniors is fucking pushing it.
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In related news, EKU's coach gets an early nomination for bonehead strategist of the year. Down by six and allowed IU to run the clock all the way down to 36 seconds without using a single timeout. Brings back memories of the Bob Davie days...
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SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.
There are no excuses for going 3-9 in a third season. First season definitely, second season maybe. But not third.
You don't pay much attention do you. I have said numerous times - including at least once in this thread that they absolutely should have won more that 3 games.
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SOme of the same people that come on this board and say Charlie is a terrible coach, and point 3-9 as proof seem to be willing give their new coach the benefit of the doubt during what looks to be a rough season, because of "what he was left with." That my friends is the definition of hipocrisy.
There are no excuses for going 3-9 in a third season. First season definitely, second season maybe. But not third.
You don't pay much attention do you. I have said numerous times - including at least once in this thread that they absolutely should have won more that 3 games.
Yes, you keep saying that out one end of your mouth. And making excuses out the other end.
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