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OT: Notre Dame Football billboard; Worth a chuckle
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brumdog44 Sep 3 2009, 10:56 PM Post #76
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Weis' 'extenuating circumstances' isn't the same situation that Crean walked into. I can't believe you are trying to compare that...if Crean posts a 25% winning percentage in his third year on the job, then he won't be back for a fourth year.

During Weis 3-9 year, they weren't even competitive. Only one loss was under 10 points. Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.

And if '2/3 of the team were freshman and sophomores' then I seriously question Weis' program's ability to develop players.
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Weis' 'extenuating circumstances' isn't the same situation that Crean walked into. I can't believe you are trying to compare that...if Crean posts a 25% winning percentage in his third year on the job, then he won't be back for a fourth year.

During Weis 3-9 year, they weren't even competitive. Only one loss was under 10 points. Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.

And if '2/3 of the team were freshman and sophomores' then I seriously question Weis' program's ability to develop players.
yeah and those same "extunuating circumstances" were the only reason he's got some BCS bowl blowouts on his resume. That, and the BCS has a special Notre Dame rule since they are a higher draw. If Pittsburgh did the same thing ND did those years, they wouldn't have been in the BCS.
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Last year was Weis's 4th fucking year actually. His first recruits were Seniors last year.

Actually that class was kind of a joint/ in between class. Charlie didn't even begin to put a staff coaching staff together until after New England's season that year. When he came in he honored all the previous staffs commitments, plus threw a few others on top of it.
His first full recruiting class will be seniors this year - doesn't make much of a differenc, just saying.
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Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.
And six of those ten wins were by a UCLA team that had just lost its top two QBs.
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Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.
And six of those ten wins were by a UCLA team that had just lost its top two QBs.
yeah, took a fucking miracle.
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Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.
And six of those ten wins were by a UCLA team that had just lost its top two QBs.
yeah, took a fucking miracle.
The Gomers managed to score 20 points off of seven turnovers by UCLA's third string.
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Their three wins came against teams that were a combined 10-27.
And six of those ten wins were by a UCLA team that had just lost its top two QBs.
yeah, took a fucking miracle.
The Gomers managed to score 20 points off of seven turnovers by UCLA's third string.
Dude, it's scary how much you know about ND football.

Are you reading up on the side to keep up with the reversible jackets ?
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And if '2/3 of the team were freshman and sophomores' then I seriously question Weis' program's ability to develop players.
Not sure where you are going with this Brum. There were no players to develop. That is the point. After Quinn and Co left, the roster was gutted. The ND coaching staff had trouble just filling out the 2 deep with scolarship players.
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And if '2/3 of the team were freshman and sophomores' then I seriously question Weis' program's ability to develop players.
Not sure where you are going with this Brum. There were no players to develop. That is the point. After Quinn and Co left, the roster was gutted. The ND coaching staff had trouble just filling out the 2 deep with scolarship players.
dude, Quinn left two fucking years after Weis got there, he recruited NO ONE (in three classes) that could provide enough to not go 3-9 (all classes were top-10)

that is the worst excuse i've ever heard
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Dude, it's scary how much you know about ND football.

Are you reading up on the side to keep up with the reversible jackets ?
I live in reversible jacket territory. I remember that game vividly because a lot of Kool-Aid was chugged around here the following week.
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you do know that Bernard Pollard started as a true freshman at safety and went to the NFL in the second round three years later right?

he was a "three star schlub"

and yet, Weis got NO ONE that could contribute in their 2nd years enough to not totally suck nuts, NO ONE?
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In Tiller's second season, Purdue went 8-4, including a top 5 win...with mostly freshmen and sophomores. Granted, NFL-caliber DE's Colvin and O'Keafer were seniors but it was mostly youth everywhere else.
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you do know that Bernard Pollard started as a true freshman at safety and went to the NFL in the second round three years later right?

he was a "three star schlub"

and yet, Weis got NO ONE that could contribute in their 2nd years enough to not totally suck nuts, NO ONE?
Way to cherry pick one guy. Now name me 3 a teams in the last 25 years whose starting lineup consisted of 60-65% underclassmen that had a successful season.
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Granted, NFL-caliber DE's Colvin and O'Keafer were seniors but it was mostly youth everywhere else.
See that is the rub. You had NFL level talent as seniors to lead the team. Charlie had none in his 3-9 season.

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Granted, NFL-caliber DE's Colvin and O'Keafer were seniors but it was mostly youth everywhere else.
See that is the rub. You had NFL level talent as seniors to lead the team. Charlie had none in his 3-9 season.

While the impact of two DE's can easily be underestimated (both on and off the field), it is hardly the difference between 8 wins and 3 wins.

Offensively the '98 team was one of the highest scoring, and gaining teams in the country. With mostly freshmen and sophomores. Drew Brees, the undisputed leader of the team, was a true sophomore.
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