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OT: Notre Dame Football billboard; Worth a chuckle
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hoosierinhogville Sep 3 2009, 11:38 PM Post #91
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dude, Quinn left two fucking years after Weis got there, he recruited NO ONE (in three classes) that could provide enough to not go 3-9 (all classes were top-10)

that is the worst excuse i've ever heard
How competitive do you expect a team that is a majority freshmen and sophomore to be? I have said that they should have won more that 3, but you guys act as if they VASTLY underachieved, when that just isn't the case.
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dude, Quinn left two fucking years after Weis got there, he recruited NO ONE (in three classes) that could provide enough to not go 3-9 (all classes were top-10)

that is the worst excuse i've ever heard
How competitive do you expect a team that is a majority freshmen and sophomore to be? I have said that they should have won more that 3, but you guys act as if they VASTLY underachieved, when that just isn't the case.
so a small senior class, a top-10 junior class (or redshirt soph) , a top-10 sophomore class (or redshirt freshman) , a top-10 frosh class didn't underachieve significantly with 3 wins?

Pass the kool-aid

Last year, they go 6-6 with 4 top-10 classes for christ's sake
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brumdog44 Sep 4 2009, 12:20 AM Post #93
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Granted, NFL-caliber DE's Colvin and O'Keafer were seniors but it was mostly youth everywhere else.
See that is the rub. You had NFL level talent as seniors to lead the team. Charlie had none in his 3-9 season.

So how much NFL talent was there on the Navy team that laid 46 points on Notre Dame that year?

Anything about 3-9 in the third year of a program as 'extenuating circumstances' is simply a weak excuse.

And just off the top of my head, John Carlson was a senior and Mackey candidate as a junior. Seems like he has done quite well at the pro level as well.
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so a small senior class, a top-10 junior class (or redshirt soph) , a top-10 sophomore class (or redshirt freshman) , a top-10 frosh class didn't underachieve significantly with 3 wins?

Pass the kool-aid

Last year, they go 6-6 with 4 top-10 classes for christ's sake
you don't pay much attention do you? Weis' first class was a mixed class that was not a top 10 class.
His first top 10 class were sophomores during the 2007 season.

SO the question remains - How well do you expect a team full of underclassmen to do over the course of the season?
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let's get a few things straight - none of ND's recruiting classes are legit top 10. that is blatently obvious. It's the "duke" effect - just because a name school gets a kid, his rating automatically goes up.


Its either that or Weis is the worst developer of talent this side of Mike Davis. Its one of the 2 or a combination.
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This is becoming a ND excuse thread. Who would have thought?!?
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This is becoming a ND excuse thread. Who would have thought?!?
well turdue fans would know an excuse when they see one - you are the masters of creating them
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Anything about 3-9 in the third year of a program as 'extenuating circumstances' is simply a weak excuse.

And just off the top of my head, John Carlson was a senior and Mackey candidate as a junior. Seems like he has done quite well at the pro level as well.
Brum, i will ask you the same question i asked BOiler. How successful of a season do you expect a team full of Freshmen and Sophomores to have against a reasonably competitive schedule?
I have said -multiple times now - that they should have won more games. There are no excuses for going 3-9. Most people however, people to seem to think that they should have won 8 or 9 games that year and judge Weis accordingly.

And regarding Carlson, i am not sure of his exact numbers, but i do know that he wasn't much of a threat his senior year because he had to help stay in and block a lot.
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Florida was very VERY young 2 years ago. How did they do?
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so a small senior class, a top-10 junior class (or redshirt soph) , a top-10 sophomore class (or redshirt freshman) , a top-10 frosh class didn't underachieve significantly with 3 wins?

Pass the kool-aid

Last year, they go 6-6 with 4 top-10 classes for christ's sake
you don't pay much attention do you? Weis' first class was a mixed class that was not a top 10 class.
His first top 10 class were sophomores during the 2007 season.

SO the question remains - How well do you expect a team full of underclassmen to do over the course of the season?
Once again, they weren't even COMPETITIVE in the games they lost.

And you're still acting like Willingham left no one. He had no problem taking Willingham's credit for the first two years. He knew what he had left after Quinn left, he had two years to develop them.

And God help me, what UB said. Florida had a shit load of underclassmen a few years ago
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Unbathed has just shown us that even a blind homer can see a little sunlight from time to time.
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Florida was very VERY young 2 years ago. How did they do?
YOu mean the 2007 gators who had 15 out of 22 listed starts as upperclassmen, including 4 out of 5 on the o-line? They went 9-4 including a loss to a mediocre Michigan team in the Capital 1 Bowl.
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This is becoming a ND excuse thread. Who would have thought?!?
These aren't excuses. They're perfectly good reasons, DAMMIT!!! :D
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maybe it was texas.
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so a small senior class, a top-10 junior class (or redshirt soph) , a top-10 sophomore class (or redshirt freshman) , a top-10 frosh class didn't underachieve significantly with 3 wins?

Pass the kool-aid

Last year, they go 6-6 with 4 top-10 classes for christ's sake
you don't pay much attention do you? Weis' first class was a mixed class that was not a top 10 class.
His first top 10 class were sophomores during the 2007 season.

SO the question remains - How well do you expect a team full of underclassmen to do over the course of the season?
Once again, they weren't even COMPETITIVE in the games they lost.

And you're still acting like Willingham left no one. He had no problem taking Willingham's credit for the first two years. He knew what he had left after Quinn left, he had two years to develop them.

And God help me, what UB said. Florida had a shit load of underclassmen a few years ago
Well they sure were competitive that year against the Boilers.

Once again you don't answer the question. Why is that?

Ands as to the Gators, see me post above this one.
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