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DC Blindly defends Purdue Coaches; more accurate title
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BoilerBasketball2008 Sep 28 2009, 01:56 PM Post #31
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DC,

In your eyes has a Purdue Coach ever made a bad decision??????

I am a loyal Boiler but when the coaches make mistakes they need to be called out.
They have made plenty, I don't think calling the TO there was a bad choice there, and I don't really think it had much effect on the game. ND was going to get two plays out of it regardless, may as well save some time in case they do in fact score.
Actually they wouldn't have had two plays. ND was lining up to spike it before we called the time out. Spiking it would have made it fourth down and they would have had one play.
I doubt they would have spiked it, and if you are Hope, you can't wait for that. You make a decision, and stick with it. How in the world could he have known that they were going to spike it there? He told the ref to call the TO before the 2nd down play.
I'm not expecting omnipotence from Hope. But the fact remains they were lining up to spike it. They wouldn't have had "two plays regardless"

And if he was truly concerned about time, you start calling timeouts way before that, like everyone else has said.

The ONLY reason to call timeout when he did, is if you see that you have some huge matchup problem on defense and need a substitution, etc.
Purdue only had 2 TOs. Once its obvious that ND is going to score (inside the 5 with 2 plays to score), you use a TO to save time. Use one to save time, save the other for your offense. Seems pretty smart to me.

Like Hope said, once the running play was called, the TO was made. He made the decision to save time, and did the smart thing by letting the ref know so that the most time possible was saved. He couldn't predict the future that Weis was going to make a horrible decision by spiking the ball on 3rd down with 38 seconds left.

I don't think it was the difference in the game, and is a pretty non-event to me. The whole drive before that was pathetic, as was the two defensive play calls on the last two plays.
Once you are so careless with your timeouts, that you have 30 secs left with the opponent on the 5, focus shifts to the defensive stand.

Because quite frankly, they showed nothing offensively that would make me believe they could go 50 yards in 30 secs. Especially when Jabba the Weis knew what was coming.

Had the focus been on the defense, like it should have been, you want to have the opposing offense scrambling.

You act like it was some sly move to save an extra 3-4 secs by calling the TO after an given run that doesn't result in a TD. There is basically no difference 38 secs and 34 secs when you're play is the shittiest trick play in the history of football to end it.
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Monday Morning QBs FTW!!!! :sarcasm:
You're right, cam. Hope, Peyton Manning, and Milton Bradley have never done something stupid.
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Monday Morning QBs FTW!!!! :sarcasm:
You're right, cam. Hope, Peyton Manning, and Milton Bradley have never done something stupid.
lol

Fail.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
once again, their offense was obviously frazzled and out of control if they were going to spike it. That's the point!

The TO let them regroup!!!

and had they spiked it, that incompletion ends the fucking game. For the love of God, do I really have to explain this?
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
once again, their offense was obviously frazzled and out of control if they were going to spike it. That's the point!

The TO let them regroup!!!

and had they spiked it, that incompletion ends the fucking game. For the love of God, do I really have to explain this?
it really is almost unbelievable that ddums doesn't understand what really happened.

but after reading his thousands of idiotic posts, it really isn't.
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
once again, their offense was obviously frazzled and out of control if they were going to spike it. That's the point!

The TO let them regroup!!!

and had they spiked it, that incompletion ends the fucking game. For the love of God, do I really have to explain this?
Do you think they run the play they ran on 3rd and goal on a 4th and goal to end the game? I'm guessing no.

On 4th down, they were going to go to Rudolph 10 out of 10 times with Floyd out of the game.

And the spike would have let them regroup.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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it really is almost unbelievable that ddums doesn't understand what really happened.

but after reading his thousands of idiotic posts, it really isn't.
That really doesn't mean much coming from someone who really has zero clue about much of anything relating to sports.

Shouldn't you be busy verbally abusing Kyrie Irving on his twitter page or something?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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how on earth can ND be lining up to spike the ball when the ball hasnt even been spotted?
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chalk this up with ddums "run laps in his driveway and shoot free throws" logic
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
once again, their offense was obviously frazzled and out of control if they were going to spike it. That's the point!

The TO let them regroup!!!

and had they spiked it, that incompletion ends the fucking game. For the love of God, do I really have to explain this?
Do you think they run the play they ran on 3rd and goal on a 4th and goal to end the game? I'm guessing no.

On 4th down, they were going to go to Rudolph 10 out of 10 times with Floyd out of the game.

And the spike would have let them regroup.
You don't know they were going to Rudolph had we not called the TO. "10 out of 10", that's total bullshit.

According to Jimmy, Rudolph asked for the play to go to him in the huddle after the 3rd down incomplete. No one knows if the same thing would have happened had the 3rd down play been rushed with no TO.

A non event ? That has got to be the most stupid thing you've ever said here.

And you still have not talked about our realistic chances of getting a game tying FG in that situation.
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Well, I don't actually believe that ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down. And even if they did, the same result would have happened. The TD play wasn't even a result of the TO. They didn't convert after the TO, they converted off of an incomplete pass, which was the same exact thing that would have happened off of downing the ball.
yeah, they were lining up for a spike as a trick play.

You should expect omnipotence out of Hope, since you apparently have it.
If that TO was a bad call, spiking the ball on that play would have been one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from a coach. Just think about that, 2 plays to score with 38 seconds left on a short field, and they were going to give away one of those downs? Do you really believe he was going to do that?

Doesn't change the fact that TO or no TO, it ended up being 4th down for the game, from the same spot, and they converted. What did the TO change?
once again, their offense was obviously frazzled and out of control if they were going to spike it. That's the point!

The TO let them regroup!!!

and had they spiked it, that incompletion ends the fucking game. For the love of God, do I really have to explain this?
Do you think they run the play they ran on 3rd and goal on a 4th and goal to end the game? I'm guessing no.

On 4th down, they were going to go to Rudolph 10 out of 10 times with Floyd out of the game.

And the spike would have let them regroup.
You don't know they were going to Rudolph had we not called the TO. "10 out of 10", that's total bullshit.

According to Jimmy, Rudolph asked for the play to go to him in the huddle after the 3rd down incomplete. No one knows if the same thing would have happened had the 3rd down play been rushed with no TO.

A non event ? That has got to be the most stupid thing you've ever said here.

And you still have not talked about our realistic chances of getting a game tying FG in that situation.
Bobo,

DC is a good guy. He just for some reason is a yes man or party line guy when it comes to supporting things Purdue does. I never mentioned it but the timeout was not the worse call Purdue made last week it was letting Bill Ayers on campus. I am sure DC would even defend letting a terrorist on campus to speak.
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