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DC Blindly defends Purdue Coaches; more accurate title
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Unbiased Sep 29 2009, 11:12 AM Post #91
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I hope turdue signs Hopeless to a lifetime contract


Akers, Colleto and Burnett would be so proud
Careful what you wish for. You wished the same about Painter and he appears in good position to abuse IU for years to come.

And Colletto went on to coach the Gomers :rofl:
Porkchop doesn't concern me in the least. you can have the mid major scrub asshole


as for Colletto - he was the HEAD coach at ND? news to me.
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Painter will continue to own Krispy for at least two more years.

I don't know about head coach for the Gomers. Realistically speaking, they haven't had one in 13 years.
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Just throwing it out there, you do know a TO last longer that the break with an incompletion. The TO allowed them to go to sidelines and plan for the next 2 plays. No TO and fat chuck has to at least hurry and call it from the sidelines. And that point in the game in made more sense to try to keep the the pressure on the offense and hope our D came through. Was it a small chance? yes. but it sure as fuck was higher than us scoring with 30 secs left.
The thought that ND had to be in a hurry makes no sense to me at all. There were 38 seconds left!!! Getting the call in and running a play with time left was not any hurry at all. They just abused us down the field, and you thought we had a chance to keep them from gaining 5 yards in two plays? Hope saw what was happening on the field, and planned ahead.

As Purdue fans, we should be more upset that we didn't send any pressure on either 3rd or 4th down play. That was an absolute mistake.
Honestly, what do you think was more likely:

A) The added pressure of not being able to stop the clock without an incompletion forces clausen to throw. Being that he had an injured toe, it would be unlikely for him to take off running into the end zone himself. So if like you say "they stopped them on 3rd down anyway with the imcompletion" They have 25 secs to call and play and snap. Clausen with a bad toe, might force a bad throw, trip, get sacked, all because ND didn't have a long timeout to regroup and think about their play selection.

Scenario A has the added pressure getting to ND or our defense being able to step up with the added pressure on the offense. 38 secs is enough to get off two plays, sure. But they had an extra minute or so think about the next TWO plays.

B) Our offense, which outside of a completely blown coverage completely blew since the opening drive, completes 2 20-yard passes and our kicker makes a 50 yarder in 30 secs.


Honestly, both chances are minute, but which do you think is more likely.
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I think 2 things need to be added here

1) I think the chance of scoring a TD in that situation is surprisingly less than what some might think.

2) Offenses make more penalties in hurry up situations. Things like false starts and illegal formations are most common when an offense is running around trying to get set and call a play.

I wouldn't be upset if Hope's original plan was to save time. Then he could have saved a lot more. But once he decided not to save time, I don't think you can second guess yourself by calling the one timeout just to save ~30 seconds. Stick with yer guns, trust in your defense and ride it out. A TO in that situation only favors the offense. The defense has to feel awfully bad about themselves knowing that Hope thought a ND score was virtually guarenteed. How can they be confident in themselves when even their coach doesn't believe in them?
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I think 2 things need to be added here

1) I think the chance of scoring a TD in that situation is surprisingly less than what some might think.

2) Offenses make more penalties in hurry up situations. Things like false starts and illegal formations are most common when an offense is running around trying to get set and call a play.

I wouldn't be upset if Hope's original plan was to save time. Then he could have saved a lot more. But once he decided not to save time, I don't think you can second guess yourself by calling the one timeout just to save ~30 seconds. Stick with yer guns, trust in your defense and ride it out. A TO in that situation only favors the offense. The defense has to feel awfully bad about themselves knowing that Hope thought a ND score was virtually guarenteed. How can they be confident in themselves when even their coach doesn't believe in them?
cosign, thank you.

if he had called a TO prior to that to save time, sure, its fine. Otherwise, blech.
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If it were so easy for ND to punch it in there, why had they not done it on first or second down?
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If it were so easy for ND to punch it in there, why had they not done it on first or second down?
Primarily because Dough-mer wasn't smart enough to run a draw play.
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Wow, finally read this thread.

Dcam, you're an idiot.
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If it were so easy for ND to punch it in there, why had they not done it on first or second down?
Primarily because Dough-mer wasn't smart enough to run a draw play.
So what makes you think he was smart enough to run it on third or fourth...since he didn't?
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If it were so easy for ND to punch it in there, why had they not done it on first or second down?
Primarily because Dough-mer wasn't smart enough to run a draw play.
So what makes you think he was smart enough to run it on third or fourth...since he didn't?
Just my theory, but I think they were going to run a draw play on third down...not spike it. The "spike" order by the coaching staff came way too early. I've always thought it was just a bluff.
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But having said that, I realize I could be wrong. Chuck's decision to pull the plug on the ground game is what got Purdue back into it.
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But having said that, I realize I could be wrong. Chuck's decision to pull the plug on the ground game is what got Purdue back into it.
That coupled with Weis saying after the game that they were going to spike it on third down.
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That doesn't make it true. If he admits that it was merely a bluff, opposing coaches will remember that in the future.
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I think 2 things need to be added here

1) I think the chance of scoring a TD in that situation is surprisingly less than what some might think.

2) Offenses make more penalties in hurry up situations. Things like false starts and illegal formations are most common when an offense is running around trying to get set and call a play.

I wouldn't be upset if Hope's original plan was to save time. Then he could have saved a lot more. But once he decided not to save time, I don't think you can second guess yourself by calling the one timeout just to save ~30 seconds. Stick with yer guns, trust in your defense and ride it out. A TO in that situation only favors the offense. The defense has to feel awfully bad about themselves knowing that Hope thought a ND score was virtually guarenteed. How can they be confident in themselves when even their coach doesn't believe in them?
cosign, thank you.

if he had called a TO prior to that to save time, sure, its fine. Otherwise, blech.

I agree 100% deach. Great points. I hadn't even thought about the increased likelihood of a penalty.

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I think 2 things need to be added here

1) I think the chance of scoring a TD in that situation is surprisingly less than what some might think.

2) Offenses make more penalties in hurry up situations. Things like false starts and illegal formations are most common when an offense is running around trying to get set and call a play.

I wouldn't be upset if Hope's original plan was to save time. Then he could have saved a lot more. But once he decided not to save time, I don't think you can second guess yourself by calling the one timeout just to save ~30 seconds. Stick with yer guns, trust in your defense and ride it out. A TO in that situation only favors the offense. The defense has to feel awfully bad about themselves knowing that Hope thought a ND score was virtually guarenteed. How can they be confident in themselves when even their coach doesn't believe in them?
Trust our defense? The defense that just allowed them to go down the field on us? If anything, our defense was the one that needed to re-group.

Banking on the other team to make mistakes to bail you out is not a good train of thought. You don't just let chaos reign.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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