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Unbiased Oct 3 2009, 01:40 PM Post #46
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a HEALTHY ND this year is much better than the past 2 ND teams. not even a discussion.

only Homervisions blind hatred precludes him from this obvious fact
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nevermind ND has been crippled by key injuries thus far
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nevermind ND has been crippled by key injuries thus far
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I'd say losing your best WR, RB and gimped QB are pretty legit excuses for any team
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a HEALTHY ND this year is much better than the past 2 ND teams. not even a discussion.

only Homervisions blind hatred precludes him from this obvious fact
A "healthy" Gomer team lost to MAC-level Michigan.

Keep the excuses rolling.
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a HEALTHY ND this year is much better than the past 2 ND teams. not even a discussion.

only Homervisions blind hatred precludes him from this obvious fact
A "healthy" Gomer team lost to MAC-level Michigan.

Keep the excuses rolling.
That's actually not entirely true. Floyd and Allen were both out for the last series - a series were all they had to do was get 2 first downs to end the game. Obviously there is no way to tell what happens if they are in there, but still, they weren't "healthy" at a crucial point in time.
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a HEALTHY ND this year is much better than the past 2 ND teams. not even a discussion.

only Homervisions blind hatred precludes him from this obvious fact
A "healthy" Gomer team lost to MAC-level Michigan.

Keep the excuses rolling.
That's actually not entirely true. Floyd and Allen were both out for the last series - a series were all they had to do was get 2 first downs to end the game. Obviously there is no way to tell what happens if they are in there, but still, they weren't "healthy" at a crucial point in time.
Fair enough. But I still don't see how that is evidence of an improved team.
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So they were +27 on net points last year and +41 this year...with 35 of those points coming against a winless Nevada team.


So if they are +41 this year, and +27 last year that is improvement right? YOu said the schedule was a push, so the fact that 35 of those points came against Nevada is meaningless.
I assumed the schedule was a push for argument's sake. I think Nevada, despite their 0-3 start, is better than San Diego State last year. Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue....not so much. Let's face it, Michigan got their rep this year by beating Notre Dame. Since, they've played an even ball game with IU and needed late TDs against Michigan State to force an overtime loss.
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Let's face it, Michigan got their rep this year by beating Notre Dame. Since, they've played an even ball game with IU and needed late TDs against Michigan State to force an overtime loss.
When Michigan beat the Gomers, media automatically assumed that the Wolverines were a vastly improved team. They never thought for a moment that perhaps the Gomers just haven't gotten any better.

More proof of the media's bias.
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I assumed the schedule was a push for argument's sake. I think Nevada, despite their 0-3 start, is better than San Diego State last year. Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue....not so much.
My thinking is that Nevada is better that SD st, Mich is improved a bit - on offense at least - the others are worse, so i agreed that is was a push.

Basically my take is this. from last year to this year, ND has improved quite a bit on offense - they are about 120 yds a 6 points a game better than last year; and are about the same or perhaps a little bit worse on defense - they are giving u about 5 yds and 4 points more a game this year. So if a team has good improvement on offense, and defense is a wash, then to me that is an oveerall improvement.
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I assumed the schedule was a push for argument's sake. I think Nevada, despite their 0-3 start, is better than San Diego State last year. Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue....not so much.
My thinking is that Nevada is better that SD st, Mich is improved a bit - on offense at least - the others are worse, so i agreed that is was a push.

Basically my take is this. from last year to this year, ND has improved quite a bit on offense - they are about 120 yds a 6 points a game better than last year; and are about the same or perhaps a little bit worse on defense - they are giving u about 5 yds and 4 points more a game this year. So if a team has good improvement on offense, and defense is a wash, then to me that is an oveerall improvement.
How is giving up more yards and points make the defense a wash? If you want to make the argument the offense has improved more than the defense, fine.

Anyway, 7 minutes into today's game it looks like the offense is better than last year....and the defense is worse. The sad thing is that ND has like five straight home games scheduled. The first nine weeks I think they play seven at home and only leave Indiana once. What is up with coming up with that type of schedule?
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I assumed the schedule was a push for argument's sake. I think Nevada, despite their 0-3 start, is better than San Diego State last year. Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue....not so much.
My thinking is that Nevada is better that SD st, Mich is improved a bit - on offense at least - the others are worse, so i agreed that is was a push.

Basically my take is this. from last year to this year, ND has improved quite a bit on offense - they are about 120 yds a 6 points a game better than last year; and are about the same or perhaps a little bit worse on defense - they are giving u about 5 yds and 4 points more a game this year. So if a team has good improvement on offense, and defense is a wash, then to me that is an oveerall improvement.
How is giving up more yards and points make the defense a wash? If you want to make the argument the offense has improved more than the defense, fine.

Anyway, 7 minutes into today's game it looks like the offense is better than last year....and the defense is worse. The sad thing is that ND has like five straight home games scheduled. The first nine weeks I think they play seven at home and only leave Indiana once. What is up with coming up with that type of schedule?
They are giving up 4 more yards a game. i would call that a wash. Even still, if you don't call it a wash, the offense has improved more than the defense has regressed, so still, it is and overall improvement.


As far as the scheduling goes, it is a byproduct of the 7-4-1 scheduling system that ND went to under Kevin White - that is 7 home, 4 away, and 1 muetral site game that is counted as home. I don't like it. It creates weird home/away situations like this year's schedule, and it also makes it hard to sign quality home and home series against teams from the SEC and Big 12.
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I assumed the schedule was a push for argument's sake. I think Nevada, despite their 0-3 start, is better than San Diego State last year. Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue....not so much.
My thinking is that Nevada is better that SD st, Mich is improved a bit - on offense at least - the others are worse, so i agreed that is was a push.

Basically my take is this. from last year to this year, ND has improved quite a bit on offense - they are about 120 yds a 6 points a game better than last year; and are about the same or perhaps a little bit worse on defense - they are giving u about 5 yds and 4 points more a game this year. So if a team has good improvement on offense, and defense is a wash, then to me that is an oveerall improvement.
How is giving up more yards and points make the defense a wash? If you want to make the argument the offense has improved more than the defense, fine.

Anyway, 7 minutes into today's game it looks like the offense is better than last year....and the defense is worse. The sad thing is that ND has like five straight home games scheduled. The first nine weeks I think they play seven at home and only leave Indiana once. What is up with coming up with that type of schedule?
They are giving up 4 more yards a game. i would call that a wash. Even still, if you don't call it a wash, the offense has improved more than the defense has regressed, so still, it is and overall improvement.


As far as the scheduling goes, it is a byproduct of the 7-4-1 scheduling system that ND went to under Kevin White - that is 7 home, 4 away, and 1 muetral site game that is counted as home. I don't like it. It creates weird home/away situations like this year's schedule, and it also makes it hard to sign quality home and home series against teams from the SEC and Big 12.
What's the neutral site game? It also seems very strange to see them playing four PAC 10 teams...simply makes no sense.
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Hog...I count 6 home and 6 road games last year.
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What's the neutral site game? It also seems very strange to see them playing four PAC 10 teams...simply makes no sense.
Washington State in San Antonio. They are the 4th Pac 10 team, and i agree that is strange. That will change though. The new AD has said he wasn't to try to schedule more games against Big 12 and SEC teams. I am pretty sure that Oklahoma come on the schedule for a hom and home in 2001, so that will get rid of a team from the Pac 10 or Big East.
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Hog...I count 6 home and 6 road games last year.
This year is the first year of the 7-4-1 schedule. I am not sure how long it will last either. The new AD has been supportive of it, but who knows.
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