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Purdue Ohio State game thread
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BoilerBasketball2008 Oct 17 2009, 12:38 PM Post #31
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
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Don't think you'll ever see a strange a half as that.

Purdue has had 47 plays...and thrown 35 passes. 3 Ohio State turnovers, 2 Purdue turnovers; Ohio State has only 4 first downs, Purdue 14; Purdue leads TOP 24 minutes to 9 minutes; 9-7 Purdue at half thanks to a 55 yard FG into the wind.
wow Brum it was a 33 min half that is odd
LOL

I'll blame ESPN gamecast...they have the first half TOP as Ohio State 9:01, Purdue 23:23.

See, the last field goal was so long it crossed the cross bar 3 minutes and 24 seconds after the horn.
lmao, it felt that long
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No penalties on Purdue in the first half. That's a positive.

Huge key this half is going to be hanging onto the ball...Purdue has shown they can move it some (impressive, since Ohio State's D is outstanding) while Ohio State is simply not very good offensively. Purdue has 2 turnovers and a couple of other ones that were very close.
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BoilerBasketball2008 Oct 17 2009, 12:40 PM Post #34
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the one "non fumble" wasn't whistled. That was a huge break.
Edited by BoilerBasketball2008, Oct 17 2009, 12:41 PM.
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lol

You think Hope had NO IDEA they were gonna do a retarded trick play in that situation. If he's just letting the O-Coordinator and D-Coordinator have at it, why the hell even have him?
So you just blame the head coach for everything? That makes zero sense. It's the offensive coordinators job to call plays, and he made a bad one. How hard is it to see that?
The O-coordinator calls the plays and everything sure. HC cant do everything. But he can say, um no, don't do a stupid ass trick play in the situation, because having a back RB throw the ball in the redzone against a top defense is dumb.
Do you think every play runs through the head coach?
I think most red zone plays are. If not, they should be. And situations involving trick plays, like the WR pass in the oregon game, I can almost guarantee goes thru the head coach.
Well, I'd be willing to bet that they don't. The O coordinator is there for a reason. If he has to run every red zone play through the head coach, then get his approval, then give it to the guy's signaling in the play, then the QB has to call the play in the huddle, get to the line, get his pre-snap reads, make adjustments, and then get the ball snapped, we'd never get a play off.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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on a side note, who are you all rooting for.....Iowa or wisky?
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BoilerBasketball2008 Oct 17 2009, 12:42 PM Post #37
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lol

You think Hope had NO IDEA they were gonna do a retarded trick play in that situation. If he's just letting the O-Coordinator and D-Coordinator have at it, why the hell even have him?
So you just blame the head coach for everything? That makes zero sense. It's the offensive coordinators job to call plays, and he made a bad one. How hard is it to see that?
The O-coordinator calls the plays and everything sure. HC cant do everything. But he can say, um no, don't do a stupid ass trick play in the situation, because having a back RB throw the ball in the redzone against a top defense is dumb.
Do you think every play runs through the head coach?
I think most red zone plays are. If not, they should be. And situations involving trick plays, like the WR pass in the oregon game, I can almost guarantee goes thru the head coach.
Well, I'd be willing to bet that they don't. The O coordinator is there for a reason. If he has to run every red zone play through the head coach, then get his approval, then give it to the guy's signaling in the play, then the QB has to call the play in the huddle, get to the line, get his pre-snap reads, make adjustments, and then get the ball snapped, we'd never get a play off.
Not the exact play, but prolly a "run", "pass", or "trick" prolly is a given. Doesn't take long to say that.
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
Certain things fall on the head coach. Play calling (on either side of the ball) isn't one (unless he actually is the play caller like Weis does at ND).
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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on a side note, who are you all rooting for.....Iowa or wisky?
Iowa.

I hate UW football.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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on a side note, who are you all rooting for.....Iowa or wisky?
Iowa. I really don't care for Wisky...

I tend to root against teams whose style I don't like to watch. Wisconsin football and basketball are decent, but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch either of them play.
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
Certain things fall on the head coach. Play calling (on either side of the ball) isn't one (unless he actually is the play caller like Weis does at ND).
Then why is the head coach even at the game on Saturday?
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
Certain things fall on the head coach. Play calling (on either side of the ball) isn't one (unless he actually is the play caller like Weis does at ND).
What in your opinion falls on the head coach.


In general, if you say "we lost a game we should have won" that falls on the head coach at least somewhat. If players are still fumbling like retards in 6th game, then the coach either isn't stressing it enough in practice, or benching the guys doing it.

Preparation, practicing, recruiting, all fall the head coach. The HC chooses his staff, so repeated bad playcalling (whether or not he's the actual one calling it) tends to fall on him. If his OC is still being a retard, and he's not doing anything about it, it shows he approves.
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
Certain things fall on the head coach. Play calling (on either side of the ball) isn't one (unless he actually is the play caller like Weis does at ND).
Then why is the head coach even at the game on Saturday?
great question.
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I'm going for Iowa too, family there, long time fans. And I think if they beat Wisky they will win the big ten, because of OSU offensive incompetenance. I want at least one big ten team in the NC discussion.
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Blaming Hope for stupid playcalling isn't saying he's a bad coach. Good coaches make bad calls. But acting like nothing falls on him, because he doesn't call the plays, or execute them, is dumb.

You say I blame him for everything. False. But you act like NOTHING falls on him.
Certain things fall on the head coach. Play calling (on either side of the ball) isn't one (unless he actually is the play caller like Weis does at ND).
What in your opinion falls on the head coach.


In general, if you say "we lost a game we should have won" that falls on the head coach at least somewhat. If players are still fumbling like retards in 6th game, then the coach either isn't stressing it enough in practice, or benching the guys doing it.

Preparation, practicing, recruiting, all fall the head coach. The HC chooses his staff, so repeated bad playcalling (whether or not he's the actual one calling it) tends to fall on him. If his OC is still being a retard, and he's not doing anything about it, it shows he approves.
If the head coach and OC aren't on the same page, it's the head coach's fault. The head coach always has the right to restrict the OC's play calling.
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