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Preseason TOP 25
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BoilerFan24 Oct 29 2009, 12:47 PM Post #16
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that top 25 is boring...

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Why? because IU is not in it?

How can a top 25 be boring? I'm guessing the only reason you said that is to try to diminish Purdue's number 7 ranking...not that you would ever admit that.

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that top 25 is boring...

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Why? because IU is not in it?

How can a top 25 be boring? I'm guessing the only reason you said that is to try to diminish Purdue's number 7 seed...not that you would ever admit that.

look at all the no-names in there: Dayton, Turdue, Minnesota etc


the top 25 looks like an NIT tourney
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that top 25 is boring...

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Why? because IU is not in it?

How can a top 25 be boring? I'm guessing the only reason you said that is to try to diminish Purdue's number 7 seed...not that you would ever admit that.

look at all the no-names in there: Dayton, Turdue, Minnesota etc


the top 25 looks like an NIT tourney
There are no names every year...
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that top 25 is boring...

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Why? because IU is not in it?

How can a top 25 be boring? I'm guessing the only reason you said that is to try to diminish Purdue's number 7 ranking...not that you would ever admit that.

because preseason rankings mean nothing.

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the fact that turdue is even ranked tells me how pitiful the state of college b-ball is. Homely, Creamer, Stooge, Jew jew? that is the basis for that ranking? those tools would finish 6th or worse during the '90's era BT.

but I guess this is the best turdue will ever be. let them hang a November banner only to not be heard from yet again come March
You are being far to generous this Purdue team in the Mid-90's probably would of finished dead last in the Sun Belt Conference. :sarcasm: Shame we will never know though, considering this is the late 00's and not the mid 90's.

And yes, basketball is down compared to the Mid-90's (although I don't think it's as far as some of you make it out to be) but that doesn't mean it still can't be an interesting and entertaining season to watch.
there's nothing interesting about watching your turdue team unless you like watching boys kiss on the court.

Porkchop's offense is sludge and relies on hand-checking fag to man defense. no wonder they can't even sell out their home games and season tickets are still available - the local farmers even realize its more interesting to watch winter wheat grow than to watch turdue basketball.

sorry, but this is why no one takes the BT seriously anymore: MSU and turdue on top? lousy, unexciting viewing. The BT needs IU to be good again to regain its national swagger. until then, it will be watching Wizzy and turdue race to 50 points and ESPN gets their lowest rated game of the week.
Yet you will watch every game.
hell no, my eyes would fall out.

I watch turdue enough to know they're basically unwatchable. terrible, boring basketball.


so don't start spewing irrelevant stats on how turdue scored 86 points against Porkchop State and how many fast break points they got. meaningless. It's slow, plodding, uninteresting and that is why turdue gets horrible ratings on TV and will further erode the BT's credibility if they are in fact, a decent team this year.

Yet after everygame you seem to know as much about the game as anyone else.
listen dipshit, I can look outside and watch it rain yet I don't have to watch it rain all day, everyday.


turdue is what it is under Porkchop: uninteresting, boring, non-innovative basketball. That is not going to change - probably only get worse because this current team is as much talent as he will ever have.
Yes because Purdue has no talent on the horizon... Just a top 15 class next year and are in excellent position with Dawson, along with several other top tier players in the 2011 class.

Painter will never have any talent again. :sarcasm:
top 15 class? shit they don't have a top 50 player in it and only 2 top 100. must be a LOUSY FUCKING class in 2010. completely unimpressed. Porkchop got gifted the 3 homos that will be juniors. He'll never sniff landing 3 players in one class like that again.

Dawson? :wanker:

better win now because turdue will be back to their usual 17-13 years soon enough
Terone Johnson is top 50 and Anthony Johnson was top 50 prior to injury. Not to mention Terone has been impressing lately. So if both Johnson's pan out and we get Dawson... looky there we have a talented core of 3 players. Add Davis from the 12 class and I think we are ok for at least the immediate future.
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Terone Johnson is top 50 and Anthony Johnson was top 50 prior to injury. Not to mention Terone has been impressing lately. So if both Johnson's pan out and we get Dawson... looky there we have a talented core of 3 players. Add Davis from the 12 class and I think we are ok for at least the immediate future.
You're not going to convince him, or most others here. Purdue recruiting is just fine.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Terone Johnson is top 50 and Anthony Johnson was top 50 prior to injury. Not to mention Terone has been impressing lately. So if both Johnson's pan out and we get Dawson... looky there we have a talented core of 3 players. Add Davis from the 12 class and I think we are ok for at least the immediate future.
You're not going to convince him, or most others here. Purdue recruiting is just fine.
by turdue standards - yes.
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Looking at the rankings, I think 90% of those polled went to the University of Michigan.
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Looking at the rankings, I think 90% of those polled went to the University of Michigan.
That's what I was thinking... I was pretty shocked to see 5 Big Ten teams in the top-20.
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the fact that turdue is even ranked tells me how pitiful the state of college b-ball is. Homely, Creamer, Stooge, Jew jew? that is the basis for that ranking? those tools would finish 6th or worse during the '90's era BT.

but I guess this is the best turdue will ever be. let them hang a November banner only to not be heard from yet again come March
You are being far to generous this Purdue team in the Mid-90's probably would of finished dead last in the Sun Belt Conference. :sarcasm: Shame we will never know though, considering this is the late 00's and not the mid 90's.

And yes, basketball is down compared to the Mid-90's (although I don't think it's as far as some of you make it out to be) but that doesn't mean it still can't be an interesting and entertaining season to watch.
there's nothing interesting about watching your turdue team unless you like watching boys kiss on the court.

Porkchop's offense is sludge and relies on hand-checking fag to man defense. no wonder they can't even sell out their home games and season tickets are still available - the local farmers even realize its more interesting to watch winter wheat grow than to watch turdue basketball.

sorry, but this is why no one takes the BT seriously anymore: MSU and turdue on top? lousy, unexciting viewing. The BT needs IU to be good again to regain its national swagger. until then, it will be watching Wizzy and turdue race to 50 points and ESPN gets their lowest rated game of the week.
Hmmm, Purdue using handchecking to play defense. I have heard that before and I have seen it will my own two eyes. Also, they grab jersey's as guys are making cuts or coming off a screen. Last I checked those are fouls. That is why Purdue fans think every B10 school gets home cooking against Purdue because they call those handchecking and grabbing fouls on the road but they seem to allow Purdue to get away with that at home. Pretty bad. I am not trying to bash Purdue, but I have often stated that even back in the Keady days. That has been Keady's philosophy and now Painter has adopted it. It hurts Purdue overall if referee's allows them to get by with it at home but cracks down on them when they play on the road. That is why it will hurt them in the NCAA tournmament. This is just my opinion and I have always thought this for quite sometime. Even though it is UB that brought it up, I do feel others think the same thing.
Hand checking is a foul in college basketball. period.

Purdue's defense is in your face man to man. Try watching a game with the volume up and listen to what is said. It wins us a lot of games.

You really have no clue what you're talking about.
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Purdue's not a 'plodding' team. They are pretty much NCAA D1 average...their tempo (number of possessions/game) was ranked 146th last year. Wisconsin is the definition of plodding.....ranked 334th last year.

But the picture of the Big Ten as being a slow down, plodding conference is accurate. Last year's tempo rankings:

Purdue 146th
Wisconsin 334th
Indiana 164th
Michigan State 126th
Illinois 270th
Ohio State 290th
Penn State 310th
Michigan 279th
Minnesota 214th
Northwestern 329th
Iowa 341th

I'm not sure how this translates to Purdue 'slowing it down.' Purdue, Michigan State, and Indiana were the only teams in the upper 50% of D1 in terms of tempo.
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Purdue's not a 'plodding' team. They are pretty much NCAA D1 average...their tempo (number of possessions/game) was ranked 146th last year. Wisconsin is the definition of plodding.....ranked 334th last year.

But the picture of the Big Ten as being a slow down, plodding conference is accurate. Last year's tempo rankings:

Purdue 146th
Wisconsin 334th
Indiana 164th
Michigan State 126th
Illinois 270th
Ohio State 290th
Penn State 310th
Michigan 279th
Minnesota 214th
Northwestern 329th
Iowa 341th

I'm not sure how this translates to Purdue 'slowing it down.' Purdue, Michigan State, and Indiana were the only teams in the upper 50% of D1 in terms of tempo.
Im not sure how they figure these stats but wouldnt teams like NW and Wiscosin hurt teams like Purdue and MSU in rankings like this? So these rankings could be a little misleading.
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Purdue's not a 'plodding' team. They are pretty much NCAA D1 average...their tempo (number of possessions/game) was ranked 146th last year. Wisconsin is the definition of plodding.....ranked 334th last year.

But the picture of the Big Ten as being a slow down, plodding conference is accurate. Last year's tempo rankings:

Purdue 146th
Wisconsin 334th
Indiana 164th
Michigan State 126th
Illinois 270th
Ohio State 290th
Penn State 310th
Michigan 279th
Minnesota 214th
Northwestern 329th
Iowa 341th

I'm not sure how this translates to Purdue 'slowing it down.' Purdue, Michigan State, and Indiana were the only teams in the upper 50% of D1 in terms of tempo.
Im not sure how they figure these stats but wouldnt teams like NW and Wiscosin hurt teams like Purdue and MSU in rankings like this? So these rankings could be a little misleading.
Even if the statistics are skewed a bit because of Wisky and NW, Purdue is by no means a run and gun team first. They just seem quicker relative to the best of the Big Ten. I'm not surprised these statistics at all.
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Purdue's not a 'plodding' team. They are pretty much NCAA D1 average...their tempo (number of possessions/game) was ranked 146th last year. Wisconsin is the definition of plodding.....ranked 334th last year.

But the picture of the Big Ten as being a slow down, plodding conference is accurate. Last year's tempo rankings:

Purdue 146th
Wisconsin 334th
Indiana 164th
Michigan State 126th
Illinois 270th
Ohio State 290th
Penn State 310th
Michigan 279th
Minnesota 214th
Northwestern 329th
Iowa 341th

I'm not sure how this translates to Purdue 'slowing it down.' Purdue, Michigan State, and Indiana were the only teams in the upper 50% of D1 in terms of tempo.
Im not sure how they figure these stats but wouldnt teams like NW and Wiscosin hurt teams like Purdue and MSU in rankings like this? So these rankings could be a little misleading.
No, the rankings are actually 'adjusted tempo'....meaning it accounts for an opponent typically does.
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But wouldn't being a top 50 team in steals lead to more 'cheap' possessions.....such as fast breaks and breakaways. So it's not that Purdue is really playing a faster pace, it's that they are not allowing the opposing offense to chew up as much clock. And just because you are in the top 150 in pace, that doesn't mean you are an uptempo team. The only way to know if a team is 'plodding' or not is to watch them, not by comparing a single stat to the other 300+ teams in the NCAA.

For example, is a team that might be ranked 40th in FT shooting a good free throw shooting team?..........well, maybe relative to all of the other teams......but they might only shoot 65% and that just happens to be good enough for 40th place. I don't think anyone would confuse Purdue as an uptempo team in any sense of the word......unless you are strictly comparing them to all other teams from last year.........which doesn't really tell you whether a team is uptempo or not.....it just tells you how many other teams get fewer possessions than they do.
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