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09-10 Purdue BB Predictions
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BG, didn't you also say "Alamo Bowl" this year????????
I think I said Outback Bowl


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I think Hummel will indeed struggle with injuries throughout the year
What makes you think that?
The back is a very finicky area of the body and people who have back issues usually have them them for the rest of their life. Even if it's not the same injury and the old injury has completely healed. Once you start with back problem you are much more susceptible to getting more.

Does all this mean Hummel will suffer through injuries this year? No. But I wouldn't be surprised if he missed a couple a games sporadically to let him keep his back fresh and healthy.
He took very little time off in the summer and he played through the World University tryouts, training camp, and games without any trouble whatsoever. He also hasn't been limited in any way with regards to weight lifting, training, and practicing.


Robbie Hummel's back is completely pain-free, the junior said on numerous occasions Tuesday, as did Painter.

"I look at it as a non-issue," Painter said


If the two people who it effects the most aren't worried about it, I'm not sure why it should be expected that he continues to struggle with it.

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I think Hummel will indeed struggle with injuries throughout the year
What makes you think that?
The back is a very finicky area of the body and people who have back issues usually have them them for the rest of their life. Even if it's not the same injury and the old injury has completely healed. Once you start with back problem you are much more susceptible to getting more.

Does all this mean Hummel will suffer through injuries this year? No. But I wouldn't be surprised if he missed a couple a games sporadically to let him keep his back fresh and healthy.
He took very little time off in the summer and he played through the World University tryouts, training camp, and games without any trouble whatsoever. He also hasn't been limited in any way with regards to weight lifting, training, and practicing.


Robbie Hummel's back is completely pain-free, the junior said on numerous occasions Tuesday, as did Painter.

"I look at it as a non-issue," Painter said


If the two people who it effects the most aren't worried about it, I'm not sure why it should be expected that he continues to struggle with it.

That's certainly good news for Purdue. Again, I'm not saying it's a definite that Hummel will have injury problems again. It's just my guess that he will. This is a prediction thread, right? I mean obviously I don't think Hummel will be seriously injured because I predicted he'd be fine by the end of the year and Purdue would go to the final four.
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what else would you expect them to say: "oh, it hurts like hell and will flame up at times but I'll try to play through it"


oh course they are going to whistle by the graveyard. chronic back issues NEVER go away.
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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
maybe its because very few of us have ever been alive to see turdue 'go deep into March'

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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
Very well said. Thank you. I tried explaining this several times last season, but finally just gave up.

Hummel might have injuries...that is a possibility that every player faces. But if he does, it will have nothing to do with the injury he battled last season.
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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
Very well said. Thank you. I tried explaining this several times last season, but finally just gave up.

Hummel might have injuries...that is a possibility that every player faces. But if he does, it will have nothing to do with the injury he battled last season.
I'd bet against that
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LOL, cam, 23-6 is what pretty much what anyone could expect. Big ten road games are complete horseshit sometimes. Terrible calls, bullshit fouls. All Brum is saying, is that we probably won't be favored @OSU @MSU or @ILL. If we aren't favored we are supposed to lose, yes?

Do I think we "probably" lose at ILL. Can't really say. We haven't played one game yet. Is Grant gonna shoot like his sophomore year? Is jackson gonna be able to finish his layups? Will we have any injuries?

But calling it a probable loss isn't really all that outlandish.

If we go 23-6, it'll be a disappointment. But it sounds like most people expect a disappointing season from Purdue, so we'll see.
Disappointment to you maybe. I'm not gonna assume we only lost games because we lacked Hummel. Sure, it hurt alot, but you never know what would have happened even if Hummel were healthy.

23-6 wouldn't be bad at all in my opinion. Going undefeated in the preseason is certainly possible. But then again, BC, Tenn and WV aren't exactly automatic wins.

Not to mention we are at Ill, Minn, OSU, MSU (all of which are ranked or close to ranked). All Big ten road games are hard, and NW is a horrible matchup for us. They beat us at home last year, and choked away the game in Evanston. Mich could give us a hard game (unless Harris fouls out again.....).

To think that we will win EVERY game we should and most tossups seems a little far fetched. Like I said, any given night the shooters could go cold, Hummel/Johnson could have foul trouble, etc. A lot of things can go wrong in one game and you lose to a worse team on paper.
Agreed. We will lose some games that we shouldn't...it's just part of the game. Last year, UNC and UConn should have NEVER lost a conference game. But both did.
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start of an excuse thread.
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You mean you're going to post the 6-25 excuses again?

Please don't.
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don't confuse facts with excuses.
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don't confuse facts with excuses.
I never do. 6-25 is factual...all of your babble is excuses.

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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
This is both true and false. Bone injuries do heal better than muscle injuries. The problem is when a bone injury causes other problems throughout the body because people are trying to deal with that injury. The most common example is when someone hurts a knee or hip. They start compensating for that injury, most of the time uncosciously. They walk a little different, sit a little different, sleep a little different, etc. What happens is that the other knee or hip starts to hurt because of this compensation. All of these reports about Hummel laying down a certain way, icing his back a certain way, and generally being in a lot pain would have me slightly worried that other areas of his back or body have been compensating for his injured vertebrae. Not to mention that in an effort to rest his back he's not working out his back muscles and making them stronger. They are now weaker and more susceptible to other injuries.

All of this means squat if he doesn't get injured again this year, but I don't think this is an "IU fan" vs "Purdue fan" thing. It's common knowledge that players who have been injured once are more likely to get injured again. You can ask any IU fan how they felt about DJ White's feet. You hope for the best, but can't be surprised if Hummel has some injury issues this year.
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I think Homely has chronic back issues from being butt fucked by Creemer after every game.

and that's why it will never heal.
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