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09-10 Purdue BB Predictions
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boilerup86 Nov 4 2009, 01:40 AM Post #91
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Because you keep bringing up the back problems from last year, which is a complete non-issue to Painter, Hummel, and the entire Purdue basketball program.
Well, you're good for a laugh if nothing else.
The potential for re-injury I am sure is always a concern for Painter, Hummel, and the program.

Potential injuries of any kind are always a concern to any program...
Have you followed the situation at all?
Yes, I understand he has been saying he's been playing pain free and that his back problems are a non-factor now. Yes, he played pain free overseas and seems to have fully recovered. Yes, I understand this wasn't a tear or anything but a fracture.

However, you can't tell me that they aren't the slightest bit concerned about injuries and having played sports before one of the first things you do as a preventative maintenance of sorts is to focus on 'high-risks areas' or areas you've injured previously. Even if the chance for re-injury is low, I can guarantee his back will be monitored and watched consistently. It's just good 'business'.

It may not be an issue as far as an on the court thing, but to actually believe it is something that the staff or Hummel has taken it out of their minds completely is naive and would be short sighted/narrow minded on their parts.
Both Rob and Matt have said that its a non-issue. Its making mountains out of mole holes if you really think its as bad as many think it is.
I don't think anyone is making mountains out of mole-hills. I even went as far as to say it might not be an 'on the court' issue.

All I was saying is that it is common practice to monitor and watch areas that were previously injured. You don't just throw everything out the window and forget all about it because it's fine now. It may not get as much attention but I would go as to wager it will be watched consistently, even if Hummel is feeling and playing at 100 percent.
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Considering how hard Robbie plays and how often he seems to end up on the floor, my concern is that he could land on his back where the bone was cracked and cause another problem. The bone is probably more susceptible because of the earlier injury.

But that's the way he plays and that's the way Painter wants the team to play. It is what it is.
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keep whistling past the graveyard ddums
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keep whistling past the graveyard ddums
Keep latching onto a healed injury.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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I'm glad it is a non issue for Painter, Hummel and the entire Purdue basketball program. This is a PREDICTION thread which means I'm giving MY opinion. Not Painter's or Hummel's. How else can I say it? Maybe this will make you feel better.
I'll take Robbie Hummel and Matt Painter's opinion on the situation.
Let me know when they weigh in on this thread.

Good to know that you can't handle other people's opinions or general guesses on what might happen in the future. But lets move past Hummel.

I think the world will end in 2012. Prove me wrong Dcam.
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Considering how hard Robbie plays and how often he seems to end up on the floor, my concern is that he could land on his back where the bone was cracked and cause another problem. The bone is probably more susceptible because of the earlier injury.

But that's the way he plays and that's the way Painter wants the team to play. It is what it is.
Blasphemy!
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I'm glad it is a non issue for Painter, Hummel and the entire Purdue basketball program. This is a PREDICTION thread which means I'm giving MY opinion. Not Painter's or Hummel's. How else can I say it? Maybe this will make you feel better.
I'll take Robbie Hummel and Matt Painter's opinion on the situation.
Let me know when they weigh in on this thread.

Good to know that you can't handle other people's opinions or general guesses on what might happen in the future. But lets move past Hummel.

I think the world will end in 2012. Prove me wrong Dcam.
I can handle people's opinions. I just disagree with it. Isn't this a message board used for discussion? Am I not supposed to give my opinion?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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I'm glad it is a non issue for Painter, Hummel and the entire Purdue basketball program. This is a PREDICTION thread which means I'm giving MY opinion. Not Painter's or Hummel's. How else can I say it? Maybe this will make you feel better.
I'll take Robbie Hummel and Matt Painter's opinion on the situation.
Let me know when they weigh in on this thread.

Good to know that you can't handle other people's opinions or general guesses on what might happen in the future. But lets move past Hummel.

I think the world will end in 2012. Prove me wrong Dcam.
I can handle people's opinions. I just disagree with it. Isn't this a message board used for discussion? Am I not supposed to give my opinion?
You aren't giving your opinion. You are attacking mine.
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I'm glad it is a non issue for Painter, Hummel and the entire Purdue basketball program. This is a PREDICTION thread which means I'm giving MY opinion. Not Painter's or Hummel's. How else can I say it? Maybe this will make you feel better.
I'll take Robbie Hummel and Matt Painter's opinion on the situation.
Let me know when they weigh in on this thread.

Good to know that you can't handle other people's opinions or general guesses on what might happen in the future. But lets move past Hummel.

I think the world will end in 2012. Prove me wrong Dcam.
I can handle people's opinions. I just disagree with it. Isn't this a message board used for discussion? Am I not supposed to give my opinion?
You aren't giving your opinion. You are attacking mine.
Its called a discussion. You give your opinion, I give mine, and its different. So I'm telling you why I think yours is wrong. I'm not so sure whats the problem with that.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
maybe its because very few of us have ever been alive to see turdue 'go deep into March'

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LIARS - SRS is getting ready to breakout
I'm still holding a position at $15 and change, and the POS has seriously kicked my ass the last few months. Catching a falling knife is both tempting and dangerous. I agree it has a good chance of a double or more from here, but the wild card is how much the world governments will spend to keep the economy out of a funk. It they spend enough, everything, including commercial real estate could go higher, IMO. SLW has been an amazing performer, and I'm thinking about getting some new rims on my Pinto to celebrate.
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I'm glad it is a non issue for Painter, Hummel and the entire Purdue basketball program. This is a PREDICTION thread which means I'm giving MY opinion. Not Painter's or Hummel's. How else can I say it? Maybe this will make you feel better.
I'll take Robbie Hummel and Matt Painter's opinion on the situation.
Let me know when they weigh in on this thread.

Good to know that you can't handle other people's opinions or general guesses on what might happen in the future. But lets move past Hummel.

I think the world will end in 2012. Prove me wrong Dcam.
I can handle people's opinions. I just disagree with it. Isn't this a message board used for discussion? Am I not supposed to give my opinion?
You aren't giving your opinion. You are attacking mine.
Its called a discussion. You give your opinion, I give mine, and its different. So I'm telling you why I think yours is wrong. I'm not so sure whats the problem with that.
If you were to actually ever give your opinion you'd simply say, "I disagree and think Hummel will not deal with injuries this year." And I'd say "ok" and we'd go about our business. But you don't actually give your opinion, you just try and prove mine wrong.

How many times have I already acknowledged that it's very possible I am wrong and Hummel will not have any injuries this year? And yet you continue to badger me. Why? I have no idea. This isn't a discussion. There is only 1 person arguing here and that's you.
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what I think is hilarious is that you turdue farm boys just assume Brokeback will be healthy all season.

Here's a hint: he won't.
I'd have to say that the odds are that UB's right. Back trouble isn't something that normally heals and goes away. He might not even miss any games, but the odds are that he'll at least have some games where it's affecting his play.
I'm not surprised IU fans generally share this opinion. It's difficult seeing a rival going deep into March while you are suffering through the worst seasons in team history.

Most back problems are muscular/connectiveTissue/neurological in nature, and rarely heal 100%. Hummel's problems, however, were diagnosed as a cracked vertebrae, and bones do heal back to 100% in most cases.
This is both true and false. Bone injuries do heal better than muscle injuries. The problem is when a bone injury causes other problems throughout the body because people are trying to deal with that injury. The most common example is when someone hurts a knee or hip. They start compensating for that injury, most of the time uncosciously. They walk a little different, sit a little different, sleep a little different, etc. What happens is that the other knee or hip starts to hurt because of this compensation. All of these reports about Hummel laying down a certain way, icing his back a certain way, and generally being in a lot pain would have me slightly worried that other areas of his back or body have been compensating for his injured vertebrae. Not to mention that in an effort to rest his back he's not working out his back muscles and making them stronger. They are now weaker and more susceptible to other injuries.

All of this means squat if he doesn't get injured again this year, but I don't think this is an "IU fan" vs "Purdue fan" thing. It's common knowledge that players who have been injured once are more likely to get injured again. You can ask any IU fan how they felt about DJ White's feet. You hope for the best, but can't be surprised if Hummel has some injury issues this year.
I.e., Mark Prior's first injury was a leg injury. He overcompensated for it when he got, which led to arm injuries.
So you are comparing Mark Prior to Robbie Hummel?

Brilliant. You are a smart, smart man.

lol
You. are. a. fucking. idiot.

I am referring the fact that sometimes injuries cause an athlete to compensate and have a different injury.

I'm sure that's a point you'd agree with...except it concerns your Boilermakers and Matt Painter, M.D., has given his personal stamp of approval on Hummel's back, so obviously he'll never be hurt again.
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BTW, cam, I still haven't seen you grow a pair and give your prediction on what the Boilers record will be....WHICH WAS THE POINT OF THE THREAD.

You've already told me that 23-6 is outlandish...so I guess you think they'll go 25-4 or better.
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BTW, cam, I still haven't seen you grow a pair and give your prediction on what the Boilers record will be....WHICH WAS THE POINT OF THE THREAD.

You've already told me that 23-6 is outlandish...so I guess you think they'll go 25-4 or better.
I'm guessing 27-2, anything less is a failure.
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Worst Case: 23-6
Best Case: 27-2

So I'll split the difference and go with 25-4 regular season, 2-1 BTT tournament, and 3-1 NCAA tournament for 30-6.

I don't feel comfortable predicting a FF at this point, but I think we're definitely one of the 10-15 teams with a legit shot at this point.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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