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brumdog44 Nov 5 2009, 09:49 PM Post #106
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You pulled the 80% number out of your ass when you said he couldn't be on the floor in crunch time. I guess that means that Purdue shouldn't have put anybody on the floor at the end of the game last year (except Bobby Riddell, who only had 8 free throws).

I see the Verdell is going to your whipping boy this year again (aka, the anti-Story). Which player are you going to put the kiss of death on this year and be the guy you worship? I suggest you pick Daniel Moore.
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yawnzzz Nov 5 2009, 09:54 PM Post #107
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Why is Crean playing Daniel Moore or Steven Gambles at all?
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yawnzzz Nov 5 2009, 09:56 PM Post #108
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Anyone else notice the advertisement... Kream Krimson Kroger.. probably not the best marketing campaign.
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yawnzzz Nov 5 2009, 09:57 PM Post #109
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Ewww.. Steven Gambles blocked by the rim.
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brumdog44 Nov 5 2009, 10:09 PM Post #110
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Why is Crean playing Daniel Moore or Steven Gambles at all?
Moore only had a couple meaningful minutes and Gamble if I remember right didn't play much except at the very end. Anyway, Muniru, Dumes, and Finklemeier all were out, so that probably left us with a few garbage minutes here and there.

Let's see....Jones, Creek, Watford, Pritchard, Roth, Elston, Hulls, Rivers, and Capobianco only leave nine scholarship players available (I'm not going to count Jobe).
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You pulled the 80% number out of your ass when you said he couldn't be on the floor in crunch time. I guess that means that Purdue shouldn't have put anybody on the floor at the end of the game last year (except Bobby Riddell, who only had 8 free throws).

I see the Verdell is going to your whipping boy this year again (aka, the anti-Story). Which player are you going to put the kiss of death on this year and be the guy you worship? I suggest you pick Daniel Moore.
It looks like it will be Pritchard. He is already comparing him to Daryl Thomas. That isn't even a close comparison.

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Don't make me post Kline's stats. It will get embarassing. Kline's best season came was when Leach was a senior. Mike Roberts was beginning to take minutes away from him, but here are his best stats when he didn't have to play the 5 and be the only legit post threat......and he played on a better team where defensive guards couldn't crash down on the post.


G GS MIN/G FGM FGA FG% FTA FTM FT%
Kline, S 22 12 21.3 59 118 .500 38 53 .717

There is a reason Kline could only get 21 minutes per game......because he stunk.....and this was his best season by far.
I am only comparing him to Kline because he misses too many point blank shots. I just watched the second half again and he missed three uncontested point blank lay ups in a row. If and when he starts to make those, then you can start comparing him to someone else, but not Thomas. Hell, I can't even compare him to any IU player other than Kline, maybe Charlie Miller because they both can't shot free throws, miss a lot of shots, and they are left handed. :rofl:

I think Pritchard will contribute and will be a decent player, but not great and he is better overall than Kline was. Also, he had an opportunity to play right away and Thomas had to wait his turn.

By the way, the 50% field goal percentage and 71.7% free throw percentage are higher than Pritchard's. :rofl:
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pritchard vs. d. thomas.

this could actually be a legitimate trend to follow...the pertinent question being is the d. thomas in dispute daryl or deandre? given pritchard's (visually) apparent aversion to training, fear it could hedge toward the latter.

someone somewhere last year was saying the absolute best case scenario for pritchard's development would be something akin to harongody. okay, fair enough. but so far i just don't see the work ethic being there. and that's the most disturbing part.

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Pritch will come along (I hope) once he gets into better shape, and learns to use his real estate. He's not little down low... yeah he gives up a couple inches to most true centers, but he's a southpaw (advantage) and he does have a nice touch. He can't afford to miss the give-me's, and he needs to get his offensive awareness up (not ready for the ball when it hits his hands), but it's early still.

Yawnzz to answer your question about Moore and Gambles: It's an exhibition.

Creek really surprised me on how much he was a no-factor, but like stated earlier, he got a later start than everyone else. Give him time to get in game shape and learn the system day by day.

It's doubtful all the new players will have the type of impact we all wish for, because of how in depth TC's playbook is. This is a learning process for all of them. I can't say that's a given, but you can't expect TOO much from any of them.

Elston is a warrior and plays with a lot of heart. Don't by any means dismiss him from getting any starts. He's thinner than most big's, but he's crazy athletic for 6'8. He's the kind of kid we want on our team without a doubt.
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dçamden03 Nov 6 2009, 03:21 AM Post #115
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we will have a completely different team by the time big ten play begins...

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Really?..............who's scholarship is Crean yanking after 10 games?
i can't decide which is more annoying, your consistent lack of knowledge, or your incessant use of "........................". I think we need a poll. In fact, BG, can you roll out a new "MOST HATED" poll, I have a feeling the results will change.
He's just an idiot really.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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i'm really excited to watch these freshmen progress throughout the year. I have zero...count it...ZERO expectations this year in terms of wins and losses. wins will come over the next couple years...this year is about discipline and restoring IU to a hard-nosed, fast-paced team...

My predictions on who will be the most fun to watch: Hulls, Watford, Dumbass.

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interesting call on Mr. Elbows
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Pritch will come along (I hope) once he gets into better shape, and learns to use his real estate. He's not little down low... yeah he gives up a couple inches to most true centers, but he's a southpaw (advantage) and he does have a nice touch. He can't afford to miss the give-me's, and he needs to get his offensive awareness up (not ready for the ball when it hits his hands), but it's early still.

Yawnzz to answer your question about Moore and Gambles: It's an exhibition.

Creek really surprised me on how much he was a no-factor, but like stated earlier, he got a later start than everyone else. Give him time to get in game shape and learn the system day by day.

It's doubtful all the new players will have the type of impact we all wish for, because of how in depth TC's playbook is. This is a learning process for all of them. I can't say that's a given, but you can't expect TOO much from any of them.

Elston is a warrior and plays with a lot of heart. Don't by any means dismiss him from getting any starts. He's thinner than most big's, but he's crazy athletic for 6'8. He's the kind of kid we want on our team without a doubt.
Elston will be a more talented version of Matt Nover
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Don't make me post Kline's stats. It will get embarassing. Kline's best season came was when Leach was a senior. Mike Roberts was beginning to take minutes away from him, but here are his best stats when he didn't have to play the 5 and be the only legit post threat......and he played on a better team where defensive guards couldn't crash down on the post.


G GS MIN/G FGM FGA FG% FTA FTM FT%
Kline, S 22 12 21.3 59 118 .500 38 53 .717

There is a reason Kline could only get 21 minutes per game......because he stunk.....and this was his best season by far.
I am only comparing him to Kline because he misses too many point blank shots. I just watched the second half again and he missed three uncontested point blank lay ups in a row. If and when he starts to make those, then you can start comparing him to someone else, but not Thomas. Hell, I can't even compare him to any IU player other than Kline, maybe Charlie Miller because they both can't shot free throws, miss a lot of shots, and they are left handed. :rofl:

I think Pritchard will contribute and will be a decent player, but not great and he is better overall than Kline was. Also, he had an opportunity to play right away and Thomas had to wait his turn.

By the way, the 50% field goal percentage and 71.7% free throw percentage are higher than Pritchard's. :rofl:
That was Kline's best year by far...................you would be embarassed if I posted the stats from his other 3 seasons. Comparing Kline and Pritchard is much further off than comparing DThomas and Pritchard considering their situations.
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Yawnzz to answer your question about Moore and Gambles: It's an exhibition.
That's the exact opposite of why you'd use them. Exhibition translates to 'practice', so we should've used all of their minutes for our project players like Jobe and players like Creek who needed to catch-up on team chemistry. It's not like last year where we simply didn't have enough scholarship players to keep everyone fresh.

To me, this tells me that Crean isn't over his love affair with Moore. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Moore get more than scrub minutes in games that matter.
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Yawnzz to answer your question about Moore and Gambles: It's an exhibition.
That's the exact opposite of why you'd use them. Exhibition translates to 'practice', so we should've used all of their minutes for our project players like Jobe and players like Creek who needed to catch-up on team chemistry. It's not like last year where we simply didn't have enough scholarship players to keep everyone fresh.

To me, this tells me that Crean isn't over his love affair with Moore. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Moore get more than scrub minutes in games that matter.
The fact that it's an exhibition DOES matter...

And Tom Crean is going to play ANY of our players that give their all day in and day out. Which exemplifies Moore and Gambles. They work hard, they deserve to play. Regardless of how good or bad they may be... We were after all playing Grace. (A school I've honestly never heard of)

Also, take into consideration that Dumes and Bawa couldn't play, and not all our players are in tip-top shape yet to play a whole game.
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