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| Unbiased | Nov 10 2009, 12:07 PM Post #1 |
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5 more TO's so that makes 13 in 2 games against d2 competition. guess Crean has not adequately addressed this troubling issue |
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| sirbrianwilson | Nov 10 2009, 12:28 PM Post #2 |
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i think crean is going to make turnovers a focus this year. if this trend continues, i see VJ3 getting some quality bench time. the kid's got some game, but negates his talents with turnovers that lead to easy buckets. we have enough players that can play his position already so it's step up or shut up. another player on the hotseat is pritchard. i know crean's biggest pet peeve is missing easy shots under the basket. i REALLY hope he gets his shit together soon. br |
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| Unbiased | Nov 10 2009, 12:36 PM Post #3 |
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Pritchard just doesn't strike me as mentally tough. He kinda hangs his head and has that dim look on his face. He could be just lazy and not putting the right time in to improve his game and physique . I think he'll end up being a quality backup because I don't think he can handle to pressures of being a starter nor ever develop the stamina to play a lot of minutes |
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| sirbrianwilson | Nov 10 2009, 12:43 PM Post #4 |
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either that or he doesn't feel like his starting position is being threatened due to our lack of size on our roster... br |
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| dedicatedIUfan | Nov 10 2009, 12:45 PM Post #5 |
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There is some reason why Crean started Jobe last night. Also, he only got 20 minutes and I could see that decrease during the first part of the season to light a fire under his ass. Like Bobby use to do, and I am sure Crean feels the same way, the best motivator is the bench. Also, I read an article either in July or in August saying that Crean was disappointed with the way Pritchard came in this summer so much out of shape and he gained 20 lbs. I think Pritchard's work ethic has been the issue. What I hope, with all the competition on this team, that a fire lights under his ass and he starts concentrating on making those shots and hitting his free throws on a more consistent basis. UB is right, he doesn't seem that mentally tough. |
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| BTown11 | Nov 11 2009, 12:29 AM Post #6 |
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don't look now, but invincible UNC has 26 turnovers last night. at this pace, they could lead the nation. :) |
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| Unbiased | Nov 11 2009, 09:18 AM Post #7 |
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when IU wins a national title, we'll overlook and give them a pass on their TO stats |
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| mongo | Nov 11 2009, 10:37 AM Post #8 |
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I agree he probably thinks his job was safe since obviously he had ultimate job security last year. But if he doesn't work on his hands and finishing around the basket next season he could lose his spot. I like the idea of have a big bruiser in Pritchard complimented with a more athletic big like Bawa or Elston. |
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| dreachon | Nov 11 2009, 10:38 AM Post #9 |
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Just watched the game from DVR last night. UB is dead on with this one. Jones makes TERRIBLE passing decisions. Some very ugly, obvious turnovers last night. He can handle the ball, but only if he is going to drive the lane with it. |
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| mongo | Nov 11 2009, 10:40 AM Post #10 |
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UB is right. My friends and I talked about this last year. I really think Hulls, Creek, or Dumes should do more of the ball handling and Jones role should be more just to score. |
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| dedicatedIUfan | Nov 11 2009, 12:47 PM Post #11 |
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That is probably why Crean started Jobe and only gave Pritchard 20 minutes. I think he is trying to light a fire under his ass. The best motivator is the bench. Don't be surprise to see Elston, Capo, Bawa, and maybe Jobe take some of his minutes until he starts playing like Crean wants him to. As far those comments about VJIII, I totally agree. He makes stupid decision with the ball, makes very bad passes then seems like he blames the receiver, and drives too much into a double team and forces shit up. I know he can score, but he isn't the only player on the team and Crean may do the same thing with Jones that he will do with Pritchard and motivate him by setting him on the pine. We have too much competition on the team now and nobody has a safe position and there isn't that many minutes to go around. I know the box score had Jones with only 5 turnovers, but I was keeping track as well and I had him for 6. Obviously they gave one of his turnovers to someone else. |
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| Unbiased | Nov 11 2009, 02:03 PM Post #12 |
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he had 5 TO's and he could have had another 3 or 4 had the 'tipped' pass not fallen in the IU players' hands, out of bounds or whatever. Crean should not allow him to pass |
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| Evilempire | Nov 11 2009, 04:25 PM Post #13 |
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It must take about 9-10 months for echos to resonate. I've been saying the same stuff about VAG since Jan/Feb. He isn't a PG, will have to play the wing where he doesn't have to make decisions, and is not a very good defender. He doesn't switch well on defense, doesn't read picks very well, and was seen more than once blocking NOBODY out which led to offensive rebounds for the opponent......the replay was on BT network last night. I wish all of his blind supporters would record an IU game and rewatch the entire game but only watch VAG.....you will be horrified. He doesn't hustle in defensive transition and could care less about finding someone to block out on defense. Watford seems like a smart/good player, but I'd hate to give him too much credit for playing well early in the season so I don't have to listen to that STORY all over again. |
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| Unbiased | Nov 11 2009, 04:29 PM Post #14 |
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evil - give me your seasonal over/under on wins |
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| Evilempire | Nov 11 2009, 04:36 PM Post #15 |
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I made a bet with either obatskii or aaronk a while back and took under 13. I haven't seen much to change my opinion on that. Most of the BT teams didn't lose much, so I doubt they will win more than 5 conference games......and I have a hard time seeing them win more than 7 non conference games. Also, I am still factoring in Crean letting assistants control the huddle and draw up plays at the end of close games.......although, I'm not sure if IU is actually better off with Crean drawing up plays instead. |
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