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dçamden03 Feb 17 2010, 03:16 AM Post #16
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Does anybody have any insight about the whole DeMarcus Cousins phone thing?
I don't like blatant taunting, but he deserves to do it as much as any player ever. MSU fans got his cell phone number and left him bad messages, including racially challenged messages that him a ni**er and numerous other things. I'm not a huge Cousins fan, but fuck MSU fans, and I'm happy he showed those fuckers up. They deserve any taunting they got.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dçamden03 Feb 17 2010, 04:17 AM Post #17
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Feb 16 2010, 11:39 PM
I fucking hate Cousins. I hope Dwight Howard breaks his fucking neck in the NBA.
cousins is probably the next ron artest, only a worse player. the NBA won't take his bullshit like college officials do.
What bullshit won't NBA refs take?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dedicatedIUfan Feb 17 2010, 06:58 AM Post #18
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Feb 16 2010, 11:29 PM
In OT right now. Uk is going to win. they are up by 5 with like 30 secs to go. How fucking much does UK have to pay the damn refs for this game. You can't lay one pinkie on John Wall without a foul being called. Then on the other end, some MSU guy hits a layup and is hammered, no call. Fuck UK, I would not feel bad at all if that team died in a plane crash.
Ask Evan Turner and Ohio State how you do such things. They've done it all year long.
This coming from the fan of the team the gets by with the most hand checking, hand directional guarding, and jersey pulling while guys make their cuts off screens of any team in the B10! ;)
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In OT right now. Uk is going to win. they are up by 5 with like 30 secs to go. How fucking much does UK have to pay the damn refs for this game. You can't lay one pinkie on John Wall without a foul being called. Then on the other end, some MSU guy hits a layup and is hammered, no call. Fuck UK, I would not feel bad at all if that team died in a plane crash.
Ask Evan Turner and Ohio State how you do such things. They've done it all year long.
This coming from the fan of the team the gets by with the most hand checking, hand directional guarding, and jersey pulling while guys make their cuts off screens of any team in the B10! ;)
Yeah, Purdue's defense is the most physical in the league. They purposely try to get as close as possible to that line between physical defense and a foul as possible. The thing is, most of the players are very good at knowing where that lines is and staying just shy of it. Purdue doesn't make its living off of getting calls (or no calls) from refs. Its defense is so good because it goes up to the limit of what a foul is and not many players have faced a defense with that consistent a physical presence.
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In OT right now. Uk is going to win. they are up by 5 with like 30 secs to go. How fucking much does UK have to pay the damn refs for this game. You can't lay one pinkie on John Wall without a foul being called. Then on the other end, some MSU guy hits a layup and is hammered, no call. Fuck UK, I would not feel bad at all if that team died in a plane crash.
Ask Evan Turner and Ohio State how you do such things. They've done it all year long.
This coming from the fan of the team the gets by with the most hand checking, hand directional guarding, and jersey pulling while guys make their cuts off screens of any team in the B10! ;)
Yeah, Purdue's defense is the most physical in the league. They purposely try to get as close as possible to that line between physical defense and a foul as possible. The thing is, most of the players are very good at knowing where that lines is and staying just shy of it. Purdue doesn't make its living off of getting calls (or no calls) from refs. Its defense is so good because it goes up to the limit of what a foul is and not many players have faced a defense with that consistent a physical presence.
Defensive players have every right to space and area that offensive players have. Purdue attacks aggressively those spots as much as the offense does. Very few teams do it, so people think its illegal.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Purdue players don't have every right to the opponent's jersey. They grab jerseys and bump cutters away from the ball quite a bit. And it's not illegal, just a foul.

I don't disagree with the physical strategy though. From what I've read and heard on the subject, statistically, being the more physical team tends to pay off. I forget who said it or where I saw it, but someone said that, no matter how the teams play, the fouls at the end of the game usually end up close to even. Refs tend to know if there is a huge a foul discrepancy and (consciously or subconsciously) even out the numbers. If the fouls usually end up even, why not play more physical and get away with more? Seems smart to me.
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I fucking hate Cousins. I hope Dwight Howard breaks his fucking neck in the NBA.
now thats fuckn funny
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Purdue players don't have every right to the opponent's jersey. They grab jerseys and bump cutters away from the ball quite a bit. And it's not illegal, just a foul.

I don't disagree with the physical strategy though. From what I've read and heard on the subject, statistically, being the more physical team tends to pay off. I forget who said it or where I saw it, but someone said that, no matter how the teams play, the fouls at the end of the game usually end up close to even. Refs tend to know if there is a huge a foul discrepancy and (consciously or subconsciously) even out the numbers. If the fouls usually end up even, why not play more physical and get away with more? Seems smart to me.
First of all, they don't "grab and bump" all game long. If they did, I guarantee they would get called for it.

Its a physical game, and Purdue goes at the offensive player aggressively. They don't let cutters get where they want. Ever thought that the reason there is so much bumping off the ball is because of how the offensive player plays?

You'd think that after doing it for the past 3 decades or so, that someone would complain to the league and it'd get called as such.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Purdue players don't have every right to the opponent's jersey. They grab jerseys and bump cutters away from the ball quite a bit. And it's not illegal, just a foul.
It's not a foul for a player to hold their ground instead of letting a cutter make a move. A defensive player has just as much right to a position on the floor as an offensive player. Just because very few teams take advantage of the fact doesn't make it a foul.
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grabbing jerseys is a foul. I've seen a lot of Purdue jersey grabbing in my day.
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grabbing jerseys is a foul. I've seen a lot of Purdue jersey grabbing in my day.
You are right. We're a bunch of cheaters and the B10 panders to us.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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grabbing jerseys is a foul. I've seen a lot of Purdue jersey grabbing in my day.
you're sounding a bit whiny in this thread...do you need a nap?
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Purdue players don't have every right to the opponent's jersey. They grab jerseys and bump cutters away from the ball quite a bit. And it's not illegal, just a foul.

I don't disagree with the physical strategy though. From what I've read and heard on the subject, statistically, being the more physical team tends to pay off. I forget who said it or where I saw it, but someone said that, no matter how the teams play, the fouls at the end of the game usually end up close to even. Refs tend to know if there is a huge a foul discrepancy and (consciously or subconsciously) even out the numbers. If the fouls usually end up even, why not play more physical and get away with more? Seems smart to me.
First of all, they don't "grab and bump" all game long. If they did, I guarantee they would get called for it.

Its a physical game, and Purdue goes at the offensive player aggressively. They don't let cutters get where they want. Ever thought that the reason there is so much bumping off the ball is because of how the offensive player plays?

You'd think that after doing it for the past 3 decades or so, that someone would complain to the league and it'd get called as such.
This Purdue team plays better defense than pretty much any from the past three decades, IMO.

It's aggressive defense. If it's truly a case where a defender is holding an offensive player, then the offensive player simply needs to run into the contact...refs will call extended contact.

Don't know where the sudden hatred for Purdue defense is coming from. They have only shot 20 more free throws than their opponents in Big Ten play and they are on the upper end talent wise...so it's not like they don't have calls going against them.

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It's not cheating. I never said it was cheating. I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it. Fouls go uncalled in every game, and fouls that shouldn't be called are. It's just the nature of the game. Purdue is just more physical. If I was a Purdue, that's how I'd want it.
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I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it.
This right there is what makes us upset. We don't get away with anything more than what any other B10 school gets away with.

Good fucking Lord, get a life.

We're a team that gets away with a lot?!?!?!?!?
Edited by dçamden03, Feb 18 2010, 04:13 AM.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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