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obatskii Feb 18 2010, 08:26 AM Post #31
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I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it.
This right there is what makes us upset. We don't get away with anything more than what any other B10 school gets away with.

Good fucking Lord, get a life.

We're a team that gets away with a lot?!?!?!?!?
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This is from a research article in the Journal of Sport Science. It is mainly my point.

In this study, we examined the pattern of foul calls exhibited during 365 NCAA basketball games during the 2004–2005
season. Results of the analysis indicate that officials are more likely to call fouls on the team with the fewest fouls, making it
likely that the number of fouls will tend to even out during the game.
This increased probability increases as the foul
differential increases. In addition, there is a significant bias towards officials calling more fouls on the visiting team, and a bias
towards foul calls on the team that is leading. The result is that the probability of the next foul being called on the visiting
team can reach as high as 0.70. Finally, the implications of this officiating bias are explored, including the fact that basketball
teams have an incentive to play more aggressively, leading to more physical play over time.
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I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it.
This right there is what makes us upset. We don't get away with anything more than what any other B10 school gets away with.

Good fucking Lord, get a life.

We're a team that gets away with a lot?!?!?!?!?
Do you have a job? Haha, you post every night at 3 or 4 in the morning.
Yes, I have a job. And you know what kind of job that it is. I work at night, so I'm up at night.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Still bartending I presume?

I thought maybe with that college education of yours, you would go out and join the rest of us in the real world ;)
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Still bartending I presume?

I thought maybe with that college education of yours, you would go out and join the rest of us in the real world ;)
Well, what I do is in the real world, so I'm not sure of your point there.

And I've yet to graduate, so I haven't put that to use yet.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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obatskii Feb 18 2010, 11:58 AM Post #36
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Still bartending I presume?

I thought maybe with that college education of yours, you would go out and join the rest of us in the real world ;)
Well, what I do is in the real world, so I'm not sure of your point there.

And I've yet to graduate, so I haven't put that to use yet.
Well I don't want to offend anyone, I guess I'll let you figure that out.

Still in college? I didn't know you switched your major to become a doctor, congratuations Dan!
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Still bartending I presume?

I thought maybe with that college education of yours, you would go out and join the rest of us in the real world ;)
Well, what I do is in the real world, so I'm not sure of your point there.

And I've yet to graduate, so I haven't put that to use yet.
Well I don't want to offend anyone, I guess I'll let you figure that out.

Still in college? I didn't know you switched your major to become a doctor, congratuations Dan!
Let me figure what out? I'm sort of missing your whole point here.

And I'm still in college to get my undergrad. And there are reasons for that that you just wouldn't understand or care about, so I'll save you the details. Thanks for being a dick about it though.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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obatskii Feb 18 2010, 01:19 PM Post #38
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Still bartending I presume?

I thought maybe with that college education of yours, you would go out and join the rest of us in the real world ;)
Well, what I do is in the real world, so I'm not sure of your point there.

And I've yet to graduate, so I haven't put that to use yet.
Well I don't want to offend anyone, I guess I'll let you figure that out.

Still in college? I didn't know you switched your major to become a doctor, congratuations Dan!
Let me figure what out? I'm sort of missing your whole point here.

And I'm still in college to get my undergrad. And there are reasons for that that you just wouldn't understand or care about, so I'll save you the details. Thanks for being a dick about it though.
You made a comment once about how you never went to class, that could have something to do with it.

You don't have to get so personal with your insults. Just giving you a little ribbing, kind of like you do to me on occasions.

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I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it.
This right there is what makes us upset. We don't get away with anything more than what any other B10 school gets away with.

Good fucking Lord, get a life.

We're a team that gets away with a lot?!?!?!?!?
Do you have a job? Haha, you post every night at 3 or 4 in the morning.
I work at night, so I'm up at night.
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I'm just saying, Purdue is a physical team that gets away with a lot. I don't see why you are so defensive about it.
This right there is what makes us upset. We don't get away with anything more than what any other B10 school gets away with.

Good fucking Lord, get a life.

We're a team that gets away with a lot?!?!?!?!?
Do you have a job? Haha, you post every night at 3 or 4 in the morning.
I work at night, so I'm up at night.
that's what he said.
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Results of the analysis indicate that officials are more likely to call fouls on the team with the fewest fouls, making it likely that the number of fouls will tend to even out during the game.
I agree with your point. Refs definitely know if the fouls are one-sided, and generally, they try to even it out somewhat. If team A technically fouled 40 times and team B fouled 20 times, it doesn't mean that they'll even it out to 30/30, but they probably will end-up calling the game something like 35/25. So if your defense tends to foul more than most, you'll get more calls that go your way just by the relative odds. The fouls are also going to generally all even out in the second half (refs generally review the stats for the game at halftime) or at the more physical team's homecourt because of the fans reactions.
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Those numbers and statistics are great, but not really the point. My argument is that Purdue doesn't foul. They just play more physical than others. Physical != foul. And here's a little validation.

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"I think we got tired," Weber said. "They wear you down. They're very physical, and they're able to do it without fouling."


If the guy I'm sure you'd say is the whiniest coach in America doesn't whine about us fouling, maybe that'll back up what I've been saying.
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Those numbers and statistics are great, but not really the point. My argument is that Purdue doesn't foul. They just play more physical than others. Physical != foul. And here's a little validation.

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"I think we got tired," Weber said. "They wear you down. They're very physical, and they're able to do it without fouling."


If the guy I'm sure you'd say is the whiniest coach in America doesn't whine about us fouling, maybe that'll back up what I've been saying.
I didn't hear the audio, but I bet Weber was being a tad sarcastic when he said that.

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I honestly have no idea. I yanked it from the ESPN write-up. Since that would ruin my point, I'm going to refuse to acknowledge that as a possibility.
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I think the problem was that they played like individual fingers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-yUrVJniqk&feature=PlayList&p=0576A9C7C6B34891&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3
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