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| brumdog44 | Feb 28 2010, 01:41 AM Post #31 |
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dedicated, I think he has seven or eight posts in this thread and in every one of them he's like my post menopausal grandma: no periods to be found. Seriously, eight or so posts and he has yet to place a period at the end of senteance while using triple question marks or explanation points about ten times. I'm sorry, but there's not much to respect from someone who would ask bg to spell check his posts. |
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| sirbrianwilson | Feb 28 2010, 04:44 AM Post #32 |
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dedicated...you're beginning to earn the 2010 John Kerry "flip-flopper" award already. br |
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| dedicatedIUfan | Feb 28 2010, 09:40 AM Post #33 |
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How do you figure? That is twice you misunderstood my post. I am not flip-flopping on anything. I just made a comment that someone needs to voice his opinion without automatically busting his chops, like you just did me. I still think we all need to be patient. We have to because Crean will be here a long time. I also ask the question consistently about "when does young stop being an excuse?" No one has really answered the question and I realize these freshman have to develop and get stronger. But the one's I have directed the question to more than anything is Pritchard, Jones, Dumbass, and Rivers. I think Crean's comments and actions this past week is starting to answer my question, but none of you have. I haven't once flip-flopped from that question. Also, I haven't flip-flopped over my frustration that I wished Crean would use the bench as a motivator and sit some people on the bench for an entire game or two to send a message. I do agree, we all have to be patient but I believe something needs to change next year or we will be under .500 again. I don't think the team and the fans can take another sub-.500 season. I don't think winning 50% of our games next year is an unrealistic expectation, but that will all depend on the development of the freshman more than anything. Edited by dedicatedIUfan, Feb 28 2010, 09:51 AM.
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| ichiro3437 | Feb 28 2010, 10:36 AM Post #34 |
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different opinions is what makes a good message board. (there is your period. are you happy?) I did not know that i need to put everything i wrote on here through a spell checker sorry! All I was trying to state is that this team is getting worse and not better. The blame needs to fall on someone no noone! The offense he is trying to run does not fit this team and he seems content to play the same players all the time and not try anything different. Any normal person realizes that when something is not working you try to fix it. Do you not agree? What changes has our coach made throughout the year to try to make this team better or just to try something different. He sticks to the samethings every game. I dont want to sound like someone else on this board but they do make a good point. what in the hell does he talk to them about when they call a timeout! During the wisconsin game he called several timeouts and after almost all of them we turned the ball over on the inbounds or during the play. I would just like to see something different than the same ole thing every game for the rest of the year because it obviously isnt working... You say watford is playing out of position well put 2 more damn big guys in there with him, last time i checked there was a few of them on the bench! |
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| mongo | Feb 28 2010, 10:41 AM Post #35 |
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I understand the frustration, believe me. This hasn't been an easy season to be an IU fan. 9-18 isn't very good. Keep in mind we are a couple plays away from being 12-15. While that still isn't very good, that would be very noticeable improvement from last year. The reason for a lot of these losses still comes down to the personnel Crean is working with. We don't have a ton of depth still when it comes to Big 10 caliber talent, and we have virtually no experience. I think what most people are saying on here is we can't make a completely accurate assessment until we see how next year goes. |
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| indytrent | Feb 28 2010, 11:33 AM Post #36 |
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when all else fails, attack the grammar. |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Feb 28 2010, 11:38 AM Post #37 |
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:facepalm: come back to earth no experience + mediocre talent = below average team It's really not that hard to comprehend |
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| ReggJO317 | Feb 28 2010, 11:39 AM Post #38 |
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| dedicatedIUfan | Feb 28 2010, 12:00 PM Post #39 |
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I agree we can't make an accurate assessment until next year because you are right, he doesn't have the B10 caliber talent and depth. Nonetheless, ichiro made a good point about changing things up that isn't working. Even Dakich on his show has mentioned several times. Dakich stated that Crean doesn't have the talent, depth, personnel to run the dribble drive or any of the pro sets. Dakich also stated that Crean should introduce the team to more of a motion offense to set more screens and get people moving more. Also, ichiro stated that Crean should play more of a traditional lineup and a lot of you on this board have stated that, see link below as one of many threads started about this topic. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/topic/6785379/1/ Also, he needs to bench certain personnel that aren't contributing, playing hard, or shooting ill advised 30 foot 3 pointers early in the shot clock. I do know that Crean did change one thing up, he had the players watch the Wisconsin game on their own and critique themselves. I think this is a step in the right direction, IMO. Edited by dedicatedIUfan, Feb 28 2010, 12:03 PM.
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| brumdog44 | Feb 28 2010, 12:23 PM Post #40 |
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misu. When all else fails, attack the grammar? Seriously, what attack on his posts has failed? |
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| Evilempire | Feb 28 2010, 03:03 PM Post #41 |
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The homers won't actually answer questions, they will just sit there and deflect. They blame the lack of quality play on mediocre talent, but fail to realize who signed all the talent. They say we HAD to use scholarships on guys like Jobe and Bawa to field a team, yet those guys never see the floor. They say that Crean has a certain style of offense, and he is going to play that way no matter what.......even if its going to lead to at least 3 losing seasons in a row. Someone said IU was just a few plays away from having 3 more wins......they are also just a few plays away from having even more losses, mostly notably lucking out that the MINN player stepped on the sideline as he stole an inbounds pass from our 5-7 guard and had a 2-1 break going the other way with under 10 seconds to play. The homerism on this board has reached epic proportions. IU should be in more games next year. Go ahead and mark this down, if IU loses a lot of close games all of the homers will say 'they are young and haven't learned how to win the close ones yet' If IU has too mediocre of talent to win in the BT, who exactly is coming in to suddenly make IU good? Crean refuses to play his best player over 6-7, and some of you say there is nothing wrong with his coaching strategies? Wow. |
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| Evilempire | Feb 28 2010, 03:04 PM Post #42 |
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So you are more interested in the punctuation of a post than the general idea/concepts?........interesting. |
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| sirbrianwilson | Feb 28 2010, 03:05 PM Post #43 |
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We'll see. Two more years, buddy. br |
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| brumdog44 | Feb 28 2010, 04:01 PM Post #44 |
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As soon as he comes up with a concept, I'll examine it. But when you begin a proposition by saying he sees a lot of big men on IU's bench, there isn't reason to look on. I like Elston and want to see more of him, but to play three bigs on the floor at once means you really need to have five bigs that can play quite a bit. Watford, Elston, Pritchard, Capo, and who? Jobe? Muniru? We all like the idea of Muniru, but is there any reason to believe that he is anywhere near being ready? I haven't seen it. At this point if he can play five minutes and not hurt us, I'm happy. It also means that you're putting Jones back in the backcourt and taking up more ball handling duties, which I know you're not in favor of. I'm in favor of Elston picking up minutes...but more at Pritchard's expense. |
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| Evilempire | Feb 28 2010, 05:18 PM Post #45 |
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And that's a legitimate counter argument. I'm not saying you should go big for the entire game, but if you are resting Jones why not go big in spurts? And what is wrong with Bawa picking up 3 minutes here and there at the 5? I guess the point is that Crean isn't even trying. |
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