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BTown11 May 15 2010, 11:16 PM Post #46
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well fuck.

to those that say IE is bad, fine, so be it, but its what i use because i like it better than chrome and FF was nothing to brag about the half dozen times ive used it.



with that being said, i just got slammed by what ever trojan or malware is on this site. this is the SECOND time in 2 months that this has happened. luckily i cought it this time before it was able to install (the last time the wife thought that she would click "ok" on the window that opened up in order to scan the compter because AVG and Ad-Aware didnt catch it).


now i know why my work blocks this site.


either way, i'm a bit disappointed. and there is no way that this is a google ad's problem. there are way to many sites that use google ad's that i visit and this is the ONLY site i ever get a warning on.
http://acid3.acidtests.org/

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It's probably just a problematic doubleclick ad that uses IE's horribleness to cripple it whilst installing nasties on your computer.
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chops1221 May 15 2010, 11:33 PM Post #47
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well fuck.

to those that say IE is bad, fine, so be it, but its what i use because i like it better than chrome and FF was nothing to brag about the half dozen times ive used it.

If you're aware that IE has a lot of security flaws and still like it better than other browsers, you can't really blame this site for anything
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germ May 16 2010, 12:12 AM Post #48
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well fuck.

to those that say IE is bad, fine, so be it, but its what i use because i like it better than chrome and FF was nothing to brag about the half dozen times ive used it.

If you're aware that IE has a lot of security flaws and still like it better than other browsers, you can't really blame this site for anything
um, lets see.....


i've been using IE since i got on a computer, 17 years ago.
i'm smart about what i click/watch/download
i'm smart enough to be able to remove any issue without having to reformat my HD (the last time i was ''forced" to reformat my HD due to a virus/trojan was probably 5 years ago)
i dont save info on my computer, ie bank info, passwords, etc.
nor do i visit my banks website (i love my smartphone).
i run antivirus and adware detectors.

ive used Chrome, yes, its speedy as hell, but the UI is HORRIBLE.
ive used FF, it was no faster than IE, the UI is shit, and its a memory hog




and yes, i can blame this site for a trojan attack on my pc, how could i not???? i visited this site, i got a trojan attack! which has been known for almost a month now and obviously has not been delt with properly.
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well fuck.

to those that say IE is bad, fine, so be it, but its what i use because i like it better than chrome and FF was nothing to brag about the half dozen times ive used it.



with that being said, i just got slammed by what ever trojan or malware is on this site. this is the SECOND time in 2 months that this has happened. luckily i cought it this time before it was able to install (the last time the wife thought that she would click "ok" on the window that opened up in order to scan the compter because AVG and Ad-Aware didnt catch it).


now i know why my work blocks this site.


either way, i'm a bit disappointed. and there is no way that this is a google ad's problem. there are way to many sites that use google ad's that i visit and this is the ONLY site i ever get a warning on.
http://acid3.acidtests.org/

================

It's probably just a problematic doubleclick ad that uses IE's horribleness to cripple it whilst installing nasties on your computer.
from wiki (which is pretty much what i was thinking when i started looking at this "test")

The current iteration of the test has been criticized for being a cherry-picked collection of features that are rarely used, as well as those that are still in a W3C working draft. Eric Meyer, a notable web standards advocate writes that “The real point here is that the Acid3 test isn’t a broad-spectrum standards-support test. It’s a showpiece, and something of a Potemkin village at that. Which is a shame, because what’s really needed right now is exhaustive test suites for specifications– XHTML, CSS, DOM, SVG”

and...

Microsoft, developers of the Internet Explorer (IE) browser, said that Acid3 does not map to the goal of Internet Explorer 8 and that IE8 would improve only some of the standards being tested by Acid3.[32] IE8 scores 20/100, which is much worse than all relevant competitors in their versions from the test's release, and has some problems with rendering the Acid3 test page. On 18 November 2009, the Internet Explorer team posted a blog entry about the early development of Internet Explorer 9 from the PDC presentation, showing that an internal build of the browser could score 32/100 for the Acid3 test.[33]
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BTown11 May 16 2010, 01:34 AM Post #50
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well fuck.

to those that say IE is bad, fine, so be it, but its what i use because i like it better than chrome and FF was nothing to brag about the half dozen times ive used it.



with that being said, i just got slammed by what ever trojan or malware is on this site. this is the SECOND time in 2 months that this has happened. luckily i cought it this time before it was able to install (the last time the wife thought that she would click "ok" on the window that opened up in order to scan the compter because AVG and Ad-Aware didnt catch it).


now i know why my work blocks this site.


either way, i'm a bit disappointed. and there is no way that this is a google ad's problem. there are way to many sites that use google ad's that i visit and this is the ONLY site i ever get a warning on.
http://acid3.acidtests.org/

================

It's probably just a problematic doubleclick ad that uses IE's horribleness to cripple it whilst installing nasties on your computer.
from wiki (which is pretty much what i was thinking when i started looking at this "test")

The current iteration of the test has been criticized for being a cherry-picked collection of features that are rarely used, as well as those that are still in a W3C working draft. Eric Meyer, a notable web standards advocate writes that “The real point here is that the Acid3 test isn’t a broad-spectrum standards-support test. It’s a showpiece, and something of a Potemkin village at that. Which is a shame, because what’s really needed right now is exhaustive test suites for specifications– XHTML, CSS, DOM, SVG”

and...

Microsoft, developers of the Internet Explorer (IE) browser, said that Acid3 does not map to the goal of Internet Explorer 8 and that IE8 would improve only some of the standards being tested by Acid3.[32] IE8 scores 20/100, which is much worse than all relevant competitors in their versions from the test's release, and has some problems with rendering the Acid3 test page. On 18 November 2009, the Internet Explorer team posted a blog entry about the early development of Internet Explorer 9 from the PDC presentation, showing that an internal build of the browser could score 32/100 for the Acid3 test.[33]
i mean if you want to use IE more power to you, it has a well documented history of allowing malicious attacks. i was just pointing out that it fails miserably on that test (widely used as an industry standard). I know people who work for Microsoft who will openly admit that IE is a horrible browser so bad that most internal parts of Microsoft itself don't use it.

i don't really want to argue it, just pointing out that this isn't exactly the first time that IE has been susceptible to attack.
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I'm really sorry to hear that germ, but I have to say that this entirely is a google ad thing. They've already traced it to it's source. As btown stated, IE has some major double-click security flaws that are essentially ticking time-bombs running in the background waiting to screw your computer over. I'm not just hating on IE or Microsoft here...there's a reason why I would never even open IE on my own computer (let alone browse with it *shudder*). I just don't like buying new computers that much...

My suggestion is that if you don't like the UI of chrome or FF, just download the IE skin for them and it'll look EXACTLY like IE, yet it will be faster, more customizable, safer, and ad-free.

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good suggestion bri about the skin. never even thought of that. the big issue i have with Chrome is there is no drop down tab for the address bar.

i'm not going to clutter up my favorites and links to ad a site that i would visit 3 times a month or less. i would rather click the most recent web address' i typed.





btown - as far as "industry" standard, sorry, i just cant agree with that. some joe developed this with certain criteria in mind. did he intentionally build it so it scored IE extremely low????? no one knows but him. but the fact is that a lot of the score is based on stuff that has very little exposure in the web and is old tech. i could care less about that score.

and i know IE has security issues. hense why i use ad-aware and avg antivirus.

if FF and Chrome are so "secure" then why are there ad-ons for pop up blocker and adware blockers???? if they were totally secure, then why are they available?



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good suggestion bri about the skin. never even thought of that. the big issue i have with Chrome is there is no drop down tab for the address bar.

i'm not going to clutter up my favorites and links to ad a site that i would visit 3 times a month or less. i would rather click the most recent web address' i typed.





btown - as far as "industry" standard, sorry, i just cant agree with that. some joe developed this with certain criteria in mind. did he intentionally build it so it scored IE extremely low????? no one knows but him. but the fact is that a lot of the score is based on stuff that has very little exposure in the web and is old tech. i could care less about that score.

and i know IE has security issues. hense why i use ad-aware and avg antivirus.

if FF and Chrome are so "secure" then why are there ad-ons for pop up blocker and adware blockers???? if they were totally secure, then why are they available?



Adding on AdBlock-Plus is only one reason chrome and FF are more secure. IE, from the beginning, has had some core security shortcomings. it's the most targeted browser by malware/adware because of this.

Honestly, there is not a SINGLE area that IE out-performs chrome. Not a single one. I'm not exaggerating...

As far as the drop-down menu is concerned, you can add that in as well. It's a completely open source browser. 100% customizable.

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Honestly, there is not a SINGLE area that IE out-performs chrome. Not a single one. I'm not exaggerating...
Except from a business perspective. ;)

Chrome and Firefox are both great for surfing the web because that's all their designed to do. As far as running web applications, they both flunk horribly.
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Honestly, there is not a SINGLE area that IE out-performs chrome. Not a single one. I'm not exaggerating...
Except from a business perspective. ;)

Chrome and Firefox are both great for surfing the web because that's all their designed to do. As far as running web applications, they both flunk horribly.
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lol


yawnzzz...... very good point.



bri - how are they more secure when you NEED to add on the pop up and adware blockers???? IE 8 already has the pop up blocker and has Windows defender included.

and i dont believe that IE is targeted because it has the biggest security issues, i think its because IE has a 90% market share on browsers. if FF or Chrome were as popular as IE, i would bet they would be in the same boat on security issues that IE is on now. its the most targeted because its the most used. plus the people that build these trojans and virus' for some reason despise MS. personally, i have no issues with IE, MS, or anything like that.

what makes you think that Chrome is any better than IE in security issues when evidently Google Ads is what caused this trojan on this site? obviously google has some issues.





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and i dont believe that IE is targeted because it has the biggest security issues, i think its because IE has a 90% market share on browsers.
unrelated, but that number is believed to be around 60% now. just a random fact of the day.
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Honestly, there is not a SINGLE area that IE out-performs chrome. Not a single one. I'm not exaggerating...
Except from a business perspective. ;)

Chrome and Firefox are both great for surfing the web because that's all their designed to do. As far as running web applications, they both flunk horribly.
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lol


yawnzzz...... very good point.



bri - how are they more secure when you NEED to add on the pop up and adware blockers???? IE 8 already has the pop up blocker and has Windows defender included.

and i dont believe that IE is targeted because it has the biggest security issues, i think its because IE has a 90% market share on browsers. if FF or Chrome were as popular as IE, i would bet they would be in the same boat on security issues that IE is on now. its the most targeted because its the most used. plus the people that build these trojans and virus' for some reason despise MS. personally, i have no issues with IE, MS, or anything like that.

what makes you think that Chrome is any better than IE in security issues when evidently Google Ads is what caused this trojan on this site? obviously google has some issues.





Did you really just compare Windows Defender and AdBlock?

They don't even do the same thing.
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what makes you think that Chrome is any better than IE in security issues when evidently Google Ads is what caused this trojan on this site? obviously google has some issues.





people who write DoubleClick ads (or ads in general) find faults in IE and build their ads to take advantage of them. sounds like IE has some problems to me.
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