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BRI: MILTON BRADLEY
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dreachon May 6 2010, 11:44 AM Post #16
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"He's a beautiful man, with a beautiful heart and a brain the size of a pea. Oh, and he's completely fucking insane."

Obviously the most hated man in baseball, especially by his teammates.
Fixed that for you.
Never claimed he wasn't insane. He's just not the most hated player like some claimed.
And who do you presume the "most hated" player in all of baseball to be?

I guess some could say Derek Jeter. I'm not a huge fan of him, but I acknowledge his greatness and accomplishments.
I'd say Arod is hated way more than Jeter. People hate Jeter, but not many people hate him as a person. People hate Arod's seemingly constant seeking for approval from the media and public, his ditching teams for the most money, steroids and the fact that after all the crap he's been through, many people continue to treat him like some sort of hero after winning the World Series. I mean I'm glad he's doing well for the Yanks, but I definitely still hate him. He's up there with some of the most painful signings my NY teams have ever put me through, the worst of which was Eric Lindros.
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he's said multiple times this year that his actions are his fault because he takes it a little too seriously when he's not succeeding. when he's playing well, he's not going to be having meltdowns. honestly, with this team, it'd take something huge to rip the clubhouse apart. if anything, he'll end up isolating himself, not dividing a clubhouse...unlike silva who basically ripped this team apart.

i'm glad that he's working out over in chicago cuz seattle definitely wasn't the place for him.

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Agreed. I don't think he's ever divided a clubhouse. Because everyone in the clubhouse is on the same side and it's not his.

Problem is, he definitely has meltdowns even when he's playing well. See his short stint in San Diego.
Maybe not DIVIDE a team.. but definitely serves as a huge ass distraction.
Oh yeah, without a doubt.
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Bradley couldn't divide Seattle's locker room. They have the most close-knit team in the majors. It's true, Bri said so. He's done clinical research on it.

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Bradley couldn't divide Seattle's locker room. They have the most close-knit team in the majors. It's true, Bri said so. He's done clinical research on it.

you've finally come around to the truth.

this just in: positive clubhouse environment is apparently negatively related to team batting average.

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he's said multiple times this year that his actions are his fault because he takes it a little too seriously when he's not succeeding. when he's playing well, he's not going to be having meltdowns. honestly, with this team, it'd take something huge to rip the clubhouse apart. if anything, he'll end up isolating himself, not dividing a clubhouse...unlike silva who basically ripped this team apart.

i'm glad that he's working out over in chicago cuz seattle definitely wasn't the place for him.

br
Agreed. I don't think he's ever divided a clubhouse. Because everyone in the clubhouse is on the same side and it's not his.

Problem is, he definitely has meltdowns even when he's playing well. See his short stint in San Diego.
You continue to say that about him, yet players and coaches continue to say good things about him and support him.

Just because you or other fans don't like him doesn't meanhis teammates don't.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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he's said multiple times this year that his actions are his fault because he takes it a little too seriously when he's not succeeding. when he's playing well, he's not going to be having meltdowns. honestly, with this team, it'd take something huge to rip the clubhouse apart. if anything, he'll end up isolating himself, not dividing a clubhouse...unlike silva who basically ripped this team apart.

i'm glad that he's working out over in chicago cuz seattle definitely wasn't the place for him.

br
Agreed. I don't think he's ever divided a clubhouse. Because everyone in the clubhouse is on the same side and it's not his.

Problem is, he definitely has meltdowns even when he's playing well. See his short stint in San Diego.
You continue to say that about him, yet players and coaches continue to say good things about him and support him.

Just because you or other fans don't like him doesn't meanhis teammates don't.
My belief is that teammates and coaches say good things about him to the media while he is on the team so that they can show him they support him and hopefully keep him in a positive state of mind. In general, it's very rare to hear any teammates criticize each other to the media. However, one look at some of the Cubs comments after he got traded and you can tell they weren't very fond of him. The fact is that the majority of players try to restrain themselves about anything when talking to the media because it can get them in trouble. I think what the players say about Milton Bradley to the media and what they go home and tell their wives are two VERY different things. Just my guess.
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he's said multiple times this year that his actions are his fault because he takes it a little too seriously when he's not succeeding. when he's playing well, he's not going to be having meltdowns. honestly, with this team, it'd take something huge to rip the clubhouse apart. if anything, he'll end up isolating himself, not dividing a clubhouse...unlike silva who basically ripped this team apart.

i'm glad that he's working out over in chicago cuz seattle definitely wasn't the place for him.

br
Agreed. I don't think he's ever divided a clubhouse. Because everyone in the clubhouse is on the same side and it's not his.

Problem is, he definitely has meltdowns even when he's playing well. See his short stint in San Diego.
You continue to say that about him, yet players and coaches continue to say good things about him and support him.

Just because you or other fans don't like him doesn't meanhis teammates don't.
My belief is that teammates and coaches say good things about him to the media while he is on the team so that they can show him they support him and hopefully keep him in a positive state of mind. In general, it's very rare to hear any teammates criticize each other to the media. However, one look at some of the Cubs comments after he got traded and you can tell they weren't very fond of him. The fact is that the majority of players try to restrain themselves about anything when talking to the media because it can get them in trouble. I think what the players say about Milton Bradley to the media and what they go home and tell their wives are two VERY different things. Just my guess.
That post is riddled with waaaayyy too many logical comments. I will be the first to denounce your ramblings ;)
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See his short stint in San Diego.
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That post is riddled with waaaayyy too many logical comments. I will be the first to denounce your ramblings ;)
I'm not trying to pick a fight or start the HOF thread all over again. It's just that it doesn't make sense to me. How am I supposed to believe that a guy as talented as Milton Bradley is well liked by his teammates and well liked by management, but has played for 8 teams in 10 or 11 years? It just doesn't make sense. If it's true that everyone within these organizations really likes Milton Bradley, then he must be the only one this is happening to because I don't think I can name any player in any other sport that has these same circumstances as Milton and has also played for as many teams in as many years.

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That post is riddled with waaaayyy too many logical comments. I will be the first to denounce your ramblings ;)
I'm not trying to pick a fight or start the HOF thread all over again. It's just that it doesn't make sense to me. How am I supposed to believe that a guy as talented as Milton Bradley is well liked by his teammates and well liked by management, but has played for 8 teams in 10 or 11 years? It just doesn't make sense. If it's true that everyone within these organizations really likes Milton Bradley, then he must be the only one this is happening to because I don't think I can name any player in any other sport that has these same circumstances as Milton and has also played for as many teams in as many years.

As you pointed out, he's insane. That's why he gets moved. It's not that people dislike him, it's that he's a nutcase. There are lots of nutcases that teammates like.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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That post is riddled with waaaayyy too many logical comments. I will be the first to denounce your ramblings ;)
I'm not trying to pick a fight or start the HOF thread all over again. It's just that it doesn't make sense to me. How am I supposed to believe that a guy as talented as Milton Bradley is well liked by his teammates and well liked by management, but has played for 8 teams in 10 or 11 years? It just doesn't make sense. If it's true that everyone within these organizations really likes Milton Bradley, then he must be the only one this is happening to because I don't think I can name any player in any other sport that has these same circumstances as Milton and has also played for as many teams in as many years.

As you pointed out, he's insane. That's why he gets moved. It's not that people dislike him, it's that he's a nutcase. There are lots of nutcases that teammates like.
That's right, there are. But those players don't play for 8 teams in 10 years. Which sort of proves my point. Teams are willing to stick by other nutcases, but not Milton Bradley? That's why I think he is not well liked by teammates and management.
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MB sucks and he is a cancer on any team....
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That post is riddled with waaaayyy too many logical comments. I will be the first to denounce your ramblings ;)
I'm not trying to pick a fight or start the HOF thread all over again. It's just that it doesn't make sense to me. How am I supposed to believe that a guy as talented as Milton Bradley is well liked by his teammates and well liked by management, but has played for 8 teams in 10 or 11 years? It just doesn't make sense. If it's true that everyone within these organizations really likes Milton Bradley, then he must be the only one this is happening to because I don't think I can name any player in any other sport that has these same circumstances as Milton and has also played for as many teams in as many years.

As you pointed out, he's insane. That's why he gets moved. It's not that people dislike him, it's that he's a nutcase. There are lots of nutcases that teammates like.
You act like you think that all teammates are best of buddies and go to each others family functions etc, which is simply not true. It is really just like any other job. These guys have a job to do and have a goal to reach. Why do you keep insisting that all teammates are best of friends? Do you like EVERY person that you have ever worked with? Why would all his teammates like a guy who continually is a distraction and hinders them reaching their main goal? :banghead:
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