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Adidas May Classic Thread; WARNING *Life Wasting Potential Contained*
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dçamden03 May 17 2010, 02:58 AM Post #46
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I actually think the '10 IU class will be okay. Oladipo can play regardless of the scoring, he reminds me of a Lewis Jackson but on the wing. Sheehey will be useable especially if his athleticism is as advertised.

I think Crean added two pieces to a puzzle he's trying to make.
i like oladipo but i guess i don't see the purpose of sheehey yet. he can do a lot of things really well, but i don't think it really addresses any impending needs. i'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't redshirt next season. that's the type of class that's really good if you have a lot of nice pieces already, but we really don't. coming into this recruiting season we needed a good presence on the interior and a rondo-esque point guard. we struck out on those two things.
To Crean's cedit, he tried at the best of both spots. I know results matter, but IU's rep has hurt him for better or worse.

I know it's hard to realize but the IU name isn't the same as it was when walk into a gym. I think Crean, growing up in the old school, thought that the name still carried more weight than it does. It's a what have you done for me lately world.
i actually happen to believe that Kyrie Irving would be going to IU (based on things I have heard) if a certain person whose name starts with an R and ends with a Cloud never talked to him. Oh well that book has long been closed. Oh, and the name Kentucky was once believed to "hold no weight" anymore, as was Carolina, Kansas, etc., but that quickly turned around. Recruiting is based on success on the court, so I hope Crean can put some results on the board this year.. it's not like he's dealing with a bunch of scrubs anymore.
Not sure on Irving, all I heard was mom and dad like duke most, and Crean pushed too hard.

And I sort of believe you on the Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky talk, but IU has yet to hire a Calipari, Williams, or Self type. Hire a coach like that and you'll have that success.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Not sure on Irving, all I heard was mom and dad like duke most, and Crean pushed too hard.
:JOBE: AND THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS WHAT SHE SAID. :JOBE:
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Hire a coach like that and you'll have that success.
This discussion just came full circle.
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dçamden03 May 17 2010, 03:05 AM Post #49
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Not sure on Irving, all I heard was mom and dad like duke most, and Crean pushed too hard.
:JOBE: AND THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS WHAT SHE SAID. :JOBE:
Well please tell me what really happened?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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BTown11 May 17 2010, 03:06 AM Post #50
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Not sure on Irving, all I heard was mom and dad like duke most, and Crean pushed too hard.
:JOBE: AND THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS WHAT SHE SAID. :JOBE:
Well please tell me what really happened?
it was a "that's what she said" joke.

Mom wanted Duke and Crean pushed too hard? or Mom wanted Duke because Crean pushed too hard. Whatever it was, i think that's the first TWSS involving a college basketball coach.
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I think Irving liked both, and momma and poppa liked Duke. Doesn't change much IMO.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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The only negative I can think of is that Crean is way too in your face and up front, which if were true I wouldn't think you guys would like it.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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The only negative I can think of is that Crean is way too in your face and up front, which if were true I wouldn't think you guys would like it.
I like it. He's aggressive. You have to be in a today's doggy-dog world.

Especially when you're recruiting against future to-be agents and Calamari, an established master of the playcalling in Izzo, a proven coach in Tubby, a rising coach in Painter, a nagging coach in Weber, and possibly the most fundamental coach in the league in Bo Ryan.

Man... hes got to sell something. That "something" is that this program has been shit on by the God's, and now it's that given players time to shine and rise above. That's a tough pitch to throw... especially to some 16, 17, and 18 year old's who don't even know what they want out of life.

I've said it before, and I'll stick to it... let Creans first REAL recruited class reach their senior year.. and watch the ball start rolling in our direction.

Because from this point, it ONLY gets better. We've been dealt the tough hand way too many times for anymore heartbreak and bullshit to occur. And that's looking at it as a realist. Unless we just become the unluckiest basketball team in CBB history.
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you make your own luck! doggy dog world could you please explain what the hell that even is???
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doggy dog world
i think you mean "dog eat dog world".

or maybe you just meant this:

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doggy dog world
i think you mean "dog eat dog world".

or maybe you just meant this:

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doggy dog world
i think you mean "dog eat dog world".

or maybe you just meant this:

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thats the only doggy dog i know. haha. snooooop.
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That doesn't mean he ef'd up 2011. It means that recruits didn't choose IU. Butler has done a near perfect job on Zeller. Howard leaving, final 4, etc. The Butler staff now creates a buzz when they go into gyms recriting, bigger than lots of BCS schools which is unheard of.

And with Davis, Izzo and MSU speaks for themselves. They have a good chance of fucking both Purdue and IU in the popper for this class.

Teague was never staying home. Etherington is very good. What's the beef? This is what happens when you recriut big time players
teague is whatever, i hope john calipari leaves halfway through his tenure in college or something because he's a grade A moron (teague, not calipari).

anywho, don't care about zeller but it'd be nice to generate that buzz. i'm not sold on him, but i also think he's a solid player. i love jeremiah davis. seeing him not come to IU will hurt inside even though i know he probably won't. wouldn't be surprised if AE never put on an IU uniform. just throwing that out there. but if he does, i think he's a very good player and a solid pickup.
Count me as one who doesn't really care much about losing Teague. I'm not a big fan of his attitude and think his goal is one-and-done all the way. In hindsight who would you rather have, Demetrius McCamey or Eric Gordon? When you're in a rebuilding phase as we are give me the 4 year player.
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Not sure what's scarier .... the Michel signing or the fact that 51% of the 1000+ respondents to the ITH poll think he will actually start next year.
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Not sure what's scarier .... the Michel signing or the fact that 51% of the 1000+ respondents to the ITH poll think he will actually start next year.
yeah that terrified me as well..
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