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Jay Bilas agrees with me
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boilerup86 May 21 2010, 10:47 PM Post #16
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Purdue will still have the same problem they did this year......keeping up scoring wise with teams outside of the BT, and MICH ST. They just don't have scoring punch, and lost a very good defender so now scoring will be even more important.

And no, they are nowhere close to teams like the 92-93 IU team from a talent and team standpoint. Next year's Purdue team would struggle to make the top 10 in that season.
Struggle against teams outside the B10? Purdue was 14-1 against non B10 teams last year with it's only loss to the national champ without it's best player.
I should qualify that as good teams.............and yes, Purdue hasn't been able to keep up scoring wise with Duke for 2 years straight, and one of those games was a blowout loss at home.
Purdue beat 4 teams that went to the Sweet 16, 3 teams that went to the elite 8, and 1 Final Four team.

I think they did alright for themselves when they were at full strength.
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boilergrad01 May 21 2010, 10:49 PM Post #17
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Purdue will still have the same problem they did this year......keeping up scoring wise with teams outside of the BT, and MICH ST. They just don't have scoring punch, and lost a very good defender so now scoring will be even more important.

And no, they are nowhere close to teams like the 92-93 IU team from a talent and team standpoint. Next year's Purdue team would struggle to make the top 10 in that season.
Struggle against teams outside the B10? Purdue was 14-1 against non B10 teams last year with it's only loss to the national champ without it's best player.
I should qualify that as good teams.............and yes, Purdue hasn't been able to keep up scoring wise with Duke for 2 years straight, and one of those games was a blowout loss at home.
Purdue beat 4 teams that went to the Sweet 16, 3 teams that went to the elite 8, and 1 Final Four team.

I think they did alright for themselves when they were at full strength.
Purdue beat two final four teams West Virginia and Mich State
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With or without my typo the point still stands :p.
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Two Final 4 teams by double digits, one on the road.

And if you read SI, Duke used Purdue's game against WVU as a blueprint for what they wanted to do on the National Semifinal.

Purdue's problem wasn't a fast pace. Two of their 3 losses at full strength were to NW and UW, two slow it down teams. And the OSU loss was played at a normal pace. It's a complete myth that high scoring teams give Painter teams problems, we heard going against Baylor and we worked them, same against UT this year when they were at full strength.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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And people jumped you for saying CBB was down from the previous 3 or 4 years, which was a stupid and horrible argument.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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No way today's athlete's could keep up with the tremendously athletically gifted Steve Alford.
Is it fun commenting when you don't read or listen to what's been said? He said better players, but worse teams.
Listen? We have an audio option?

And the assumption that worse athletes with better team play automatically trumps better athletes with worse team play is stupid.

Providence in 1987 was not a quality team....yet they made the final four. The final four game of Syracuse against Providence looked like two very mediocre teams playing.
I don't think Syracuse was mediocre!
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Evilempire May 22 2010, 09:37 AM Post #22
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And people jumped you for saying CBB was down from the previous 3 or 4 years, which was a stupid and horrible argument.
Not accurate, I said it was down 2 years ago and last year.
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No way today's athlete's could keep up with the tremendously athletically gifted Steve Alford.
Is it fun commenting when you don't read or listen to what's been said? He said better players, but worse teams.
Listen? We have an audio option?

And the assumption that worse athletes with better team play automatically trumps better athletes with worse team play is stupid.

Providence in 1987 was not a quality team....yet they made the final four. The final four game of Syracuse against Providence looked like two very mediocre teams playing.
Does the link not work? It's a podcast on the BS report with Bill Simmons.
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brumdog44 May 22 2010, 10:04 AM Post #24
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No way today's athlete's could keep up with the tremendously athletically gifted Steve Alford.
Is it fun commenting when you don't read or listen to what's been said? He said better players, but worse teams.
Listen? We have an audio option?

And the assumption that worse athletes with better team play automatically trumps better athletes with worse team play is stupid.

Providence in 1987 was not a quality team....yet they made the final four. The final four game of Syracuse against Providence looked like two very mediocre teams playing.
I don't think Syracuse was mediocre!
I said that the Providence/Syracuse game looked like two mediocre teams playing....and it did. I didn't call Syracuse mediocre but they did look that way in the Providence game....but they weren't really an 'executing team with okay athletes,' they were an athletic team with questionable true basketball IQ. Simple testimant to that is their free throw shooting and their letting the clock run down after Smart's shot.

In other words, they are what people are accusing today's top teams of being.
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The Syracuse 87 team would win atleast 6 out of 10 nuetral court games with any team of this past season.
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The Syracuse 87 team would win atleast 6 out of 10 nuetral court games with any team of this past season.
Hooray for random unprovable statistics!

Besides, those guys would be in their 40s now.
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Bilas is right. And to add to his point, the team pictured above played 25 times better together than teams 25 years ago. How far basketball has dropped...

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The Syracuse 87 team would win atleast 6 out of 10 nuetral court games with any team of this past season.
Hooray for random unprovable statistics!

Besides, those guys would be in their 40s now.
Your idiocy knows no bounds. The team from 87, not the guys right now. We all know the eye test means nothing to you, boxscores rule the world.
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I love it how you say that Purdue has trouble with high scoring and athletic teams (ie the teams of today) out of one side of your mouth, and how teams were better years ago because they played the way Purdue plays now (teamwork, solid fundamentals, playing well as a TEAM) out the other.

at what point can you just agree to disagree and act your age?
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The Syracuse 87 team would win atleast 6 out of 10 nuetral court games with any team of this past season.
Hooray for random unprovable statistics!

Besides, those guys would be in their 40s now.
Your idiocy knows no bounds. The team from 87, not the guys right now. We all know the eye test means nothing to you, boxscores rule the world.
When a blind man tells me the carpet is red, I tend to look for second opinions. Eyes are only as strong as the person looking.
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