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WIll scholarship situation work itself out?
Yes, it will work itself out for the 2011 class. 12 (52.2%)
Yes, but not until 2014. 6 (26.1%)
Yes, but after Crean's contract has expired and has been replaced by another coach. 3 (13%)
No, not while Crean's is the coach. 2 (8.7%)
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Scholarship Situation!; Will it work itself out sooner or later?
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dedicatedIUfan May 21 2010, 05:12 PM Post #1
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ITH reported that the scholarship situation will work itself out. I think this will make an interesting poll. How many people think the scholarship situation will work itself, especially for the 2011 class and with the classes being unbalanced. I think if it does, it won't work itself out next year, unless they get a rash of transfers. It will work itself out by 2014 or by the time Crean's contract is up, which ever comes first.

Here is the article from ITH:

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/05/19/scholarship-situation-will-work-itself-out/#more-6604
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dreachon May 21 2010, 07:35 PM Post #2
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I think his contract isn't up until 2018. So I voted for that option because it's the funniest.
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dedicatedIUfan May 21 2010, 10:03 PM Post #3
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I think his contract isn't up until 2018. So I voted for that option because it's the funniest.
I actually think his contract expires in 2016. But what is two years. ;)
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BTown11 May 21 2010, 10:05 PM Post #4
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I think his contract isn't up until 2018. So I voted for that option because it's the funniest.
I actually think his contract expires in 2016. But what is two years. ;)
it got extended two extra from 8 to 10.
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it won't "work itself out" that's horrid terming by ITH, it will be worked out in a combination of scholarships expiring and Crean doing some trim work on the hedges, if you will.
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it won't "work itself out" that's horrid terming by ITH, it will be worked out in a combination of scholarships expiring and Crean doing some trim work on the hedges, if you will.
I agree. It is ashame that Crean has to do some trim work, but that is the only way this thing will work itself out. I can't figure out why Pritchard and/or Roth, who aren't his actual recruits, hasn't been trimmed. Especially Pritchard, who put forth such a lack luster year and has, up till now, a terrible work ethic.


I also forgot about the extra two years.
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I think work itself out is a bad phrase. If certain recruits go elsewhere it'll be blamed on the scholarship situation, which is false.

If certain recruits want to commit, there will be room for them.
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I think work itself out is a bad phrase. If certain recruits go elsewhere it'll be blamed on the scholarship situation, which is false.

If certain recruits want to commit, there will be room for them.
That is what the article makes it sound like. What is Crean going to do, take someone's scholarship away? That just isn't good recruiting tactics, IMO. It seems like Crean doesn't have a recruiting strategy. He offers way more than what he has available and he offers scholarships like they are plentiful.
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I think work itself out is a bad phrase. If certain recruits go elsewhere it'll be blamed on the scholarship situation, which is false.

If certain recruits want to commit, there will be room for them.
That is what the article makes it sound like. What is Crean going to do, take someone's scholarship away? That just isn't good recruiting tactics, IMO. It seems like Crean doesn't have a recruiting strategy. He offers way more than what he has available and he offers scholarships like they are plentiful.
Ummmm...........yeah, he will just take them away. Is 'trimming the hedges' the new term being used to replace 'wasted scholarships on players who don't belong because of poor talent evaluation'?
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I think work itself out is a bad phrase. If certain recruits go elsewhere it'll be blamed on the scholarship situation, which is false.

If certain recruits want to commit, there will be room for them.
That is what the article makes it sound like. What is Crean going to do, take someone's scholarship away? That just isn't good recruiting tactics, IMO. It seems like Crean doesn't have a recruiting strategy. He offers way more than what he has available and he offers scholarships like they are plentiful.
Ummmm...........yeah, he will just take them away. Is 'trimming the hedges' the new term being used to replace 'wasted scholarships on players who don't belong because of poor talent evaluation'?
There is one really good solution, stop giving out scholarships to players that you eventually will force out. Isn't there something morally/ethically wrong with that?
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brumdog44 May 22 2010, 05:08 PM Post #11
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I think work itself out is a bad phrase. If certain recruits go elsewhere it'll be blamed on the scholarship situation, which is false.

If certain recruits want to commit, there will be room for them.
That is what the article makes it sound like. What is Crean going to do, take someone's scholarship away? That just isn't good recruiting tactics, IMO. It seems like Crean doesn't have a recruiting strategy. He offers way more than what he has available and he offers scholarships like they are plentiful.
Ummmm...........yeah, he will just take them away. Is 'trimming the hedges' the new term being used to replace 'wasted scholarships on players who don't belong because of poor talent evaluation'?
Link.

BTW, how many players left under Knight's watch?

The only difference between players transferring under Crean and players transferring under Knight is that you probably blamed the player when it was Knight the the coach when it was Crean.

Let me ask you, though, if you say players transferring under Knight was the player 'not being able to handle discipline'.....how does that speak to Knight the evaluator that he would take in so many players who couldn't handle it?
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Ummm........it's much worse for a basketball coach to not be able to evaluate talent than it is for not having a crystal ball and know how a kid will handle getting yelled at. Do you really think any player that signed with Knight after year 10 didn't have a clue as to what he was getting into?
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Ummm........it's much worse for a basketball coach to not be able to evaluate talent than it is for not having a crystal ball and know how a kid will handle getting yelled at. Do you really think any player that signed with Knight after year 10 didn't have a clue as to what he was getting into?
Did you really think for one second that either Lawrence Funderburke or Sherron Wilkerson were going to hold up at IU when they signed?

It sure as hell didn't take a crystal ball....of course you're pretty bad at eye tests so I wouldn't surprise me if you needed one.
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Ummm........it's much worse for a basketball coach to not be able to evaluate talent than it is for not having a crystal ball and know how a kid will handle getting yelled at. Do you really think any player that signed with Knight after year 10 didn't have a clue as to what he was getting into?
Did you really think for one second that either Lawrence Funderburke or Sherron Wilkerson were going to hold up at IU when they signed?

It sure as hell didn't take a crystal ball....of course you're pretty bad at eye tests so I wouldn't surprise me if you needed one.
Evidently this eye test thing has really become a point of contention between you two.

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Ummm........it's much worse for a basketball coach to not be able to evaluate talent than it is for not having a crystal ball and know how a kid will handle getting yelled at. Do you really think any player that signed with Knight after year 10 didn't have a clue as to what he was getting into?
Did you really think for one second that either Lawrence Funderburke or Sherron Wilkerson were going to hold up at IU when they signed?

It sure as hell didn't take a crystal ball....of course you're pretty bad at eye tests so I wouldn't surprise me if you needed one.
The reason they didn't hold up wasn't because of complete lack of talent.
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