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http://www.indystar.com/article/20100901/SPORTS/100901047/Big-Ten-realignment-IU-Purdue-together
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damn, if those are the divisions than the second one is going to be a cakewalk in basketball for MSU.
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oh, thank god. if it's just for football why the hell is it posted here? lol.
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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
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Michigan State may as well start hanging up B10 basketball championship banners for the foreseeable future if its for basketball also.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
It's a business and football is the breadwinner; what do you want them to do?
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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
It's a business and football is the breadwinner; what do you want them to do?
Treat it like intercollegiate athletics and not a business.

Competitive balance should be more important than $$$.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
It's a business and football is the breadwinner; what do you want them to do?
Treat it like intercollegiate athletics and not a business.

Competitive balance should be more important than $$$.
While that's a warm and fuzzy thought, this is the 20th century. It's about the $. In addition football funds virtually every other sport on campus. You take away the money that football generates and you'll be putting a noose on other sports I would presume.

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Treat it like intercollegiate athletics and not a business.

Competitive balance should be more important than $$$.
I agree 100% but unfortunately that s not the way t works, and it hasn't worked that way for a long time. It takes a lot of money to run a big time athletic program.
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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
It's a business and football is the breadwinner; what do you want them to do?
Treat it like intercollegiate athletics and not a business.

Competitive balance should be more important than $$$.
While that's a warm and fuzzy thought, this is the 20th century. It's about the $. In addition football funds virtually every other sport on campus. You take away the money that football generates and you'll be putting a noose on other sports I would presume.

Its the 21st century.

What $$$ would you lose from competitive balance? If anything, I'd think it'd bring more money in. OSU/PSU/NU are going to make their money either way, may as well give the middle/lower tier teams a chance at some good records which could turn things around.

IU is pretty much fucked in this situation in football. Not that it'd matter much, but I don't see much of a chance of them making very many bowl games when they play OSU/PSU/UW/Purdue every year no matter what.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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What is kind of funy though is that competitive balance was once of the first things listed when the B10 was discussing how they were going to set up the conferences.
The funny thing is that it isn't balanced in football either. Football-wise it looks like it was set up with the express purpose of trying to get 2 OSU-Mich games a year. Iowa and Mch St are solid teams that occasionally rise up, but for the most part, that division will generally be either Michigan or Nebraska.
I just hope it blows up in their face and Michigan stays down for awhile.
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i wouldn't count nebraska out of winning their half of the conference more often than not.

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According to ITH, it is for basketball too.

Here is what they had to say:

Report: Big Ten to announce six-team divisions
by Alex Bozich in Media | September 1st, 2010
You knew it was coming, but now, the details have apparently been leaked. According to this report on ESPN.com, the Big Ten will announce two six-team divisions on Wednesday.

The details:

Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

- Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

- And Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.

In men’s basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games — three at home and three on the road — against teams in the opposing division.

These divisions have clearly been formed with football, football and more football in mind, but from a basketball perspective, the road back to the top of the conference just got tougher for IU.

Traditionally, four of the six best programs in the conference (sans IU) are grouped with the Hoosiers. And even though the 16-game schedule is not yet a done deal, it’s looking unlikely that a chance to beat up on Nebraska or Iowa twice per season will happen again.
screw that. that's bullcrap.. it's clear these divisions were made for football with no mind for basketball at all. f*** you money hungry Big Ten!
It's a business and football is the breadwinner; what do you want them to do?
Treat it like intercollegiate athletics and not a business.

Competitive balance should be more important than $$$.
While that's a warm and fuzzy thought, this is the 20th century. It's about the $. In addition football funds virtually every other sport on campus. You take away the money that football generates and you'll be putting a noose on other sports I would presume.

Its the 21st century.

What $$$ would you lose from competitive balance? If anything, I'd think it'd bring more money in. OSU/PSU/NU are going to make their money either way, may as well give the middle/lower tier teams a chance at some good records which could turn things around.

IU is pretty much fucked in this situation in football. Not that it'd matter much, but I don't see much of a chance of them making very many bowl games when they play OSU/PSU/UW/Purdue every year no matter what.
I realize it's the 21st century. Sorry.

I have no idea about how much money this or that would mean. I'm not a sports economist.

I guarantee you that the bottom line if running the way this thing is set up and they did it to try and maximize their bottom line. I'm sure did they a multitude of research to make this the case.
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