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| Athlete Double Standards; Jeremiah Masoli.. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 3 2010, 05:47 PM (283 Views) | |
| BTown11 | Sep 3 2010, 05:47 PM Post #1 |
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As many of you know, Jeremiah Masoli was the starting quarterback last season for the Oregon Ducks. Masoli has a long-documented past of academic troubles, which caused him to start his career at City College of San Francisco. After one season, he transferred to Oregon where he starred for two seasons after the departure of Dennis Dixon. This is where our story begins. Late last season, Masoli robbed a fraternity house on Oregon's campus with fellow teammate Garrett Embry. (http://special.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/news/24549783-57/masoli-james-police-charge-embry.csp) He was subsequently charged with 12 months probation, and suspended for the entire 2010 football season. The trouble continued for Masoli last school year as he was charged with Drug and Traffic charges (not drug trafficking) in March while on probation (the result of his violation of probation is still pending). Because Masoli started his career at JuCo, he had already graduated prior to the start of his final year of eligibility. He promptly transferred to Ole Miss to enroll in grad school, in a program that Oregon did not offer, so that he could immediately play football for the Rebels. At first he was denied the ability to play immediately, but that ruling was overturned today by the NCAA. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/09/ncaa-reverses-field-and-says-masoli-can-play-this-year.html) This raises many questions for me: 1) How many students would have been admitted to graduate school with a pending probation violation? 2) He just so happened to enroll in a grad school program that Oregon didn't offer, riiight.. 3) How on Earth can Ole Miss admit this kid knowing what baggage he is bringing with him? 4) Who's responsibility should it be to ensure that athletes are not allowed to do this in the future? I can promise to you that any "normal" students who did what Masoli did would have been dropped from the University so fast, and he wouldn't have been given the chance to get into a graduate school. Not just that, but if Ole Miss didn't have a QB vacancy to fill after Jevan Snead left, and Masoli didn't have the ability he has, I promise he wouldn't have been afforded this chance.. GIVE ME A BREAK OLE MISS AND NCAA! |
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| tAmazingHoosier | Sep 3 2010, 05:51 PM Post #2 |
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They would call Ole Miss racist if they didn't accept him. wtg |
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| tAmazingHoosier | Sep 3 2010, 05:55 PM Post #3 |
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Also, for the right price, a lawyer can get people out of nearly everything. (See: OJ Simpson, Rick Pitino) |
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| BTown11 | Sep 3 2010, 05:58 PM Post #4 |
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Masoli didn't get out of his first offense (he plead guilty), and they won't get him out of violating probation either. besides the point really, how can Ole Miss and NCAA let a corrupt person like this participate without any punishment? basically he transferred and evaded any punishment. |
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| tAmazingHoosier | Sep 3 2010, 06:16 PM Post #5 |
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Houston Nutt must be desperate or in the hot seat or something? ... Idk, I don't follow any teams from Mississippi. |
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| IUKOREA | Sep 3 2010, 06:55 PM Post #6 |
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I agree some athletes in the NCAA have been using this grad. school loophole just to get back on the field/court with a program of their choice. The NCAA should review the rule and maybe make some changes. Although I'm not defending him, because I wouldn't want him at my school or on my team, but just by him being on probation doesn't nessacerily disqualify him from admissions. I know two individuals off the top of my head at IU, one currently in law school and the other is getting his masters in Geology, that have drug/probation violations. People in prison can get a post-undergrad degree. Not saying its right but the system allows it. |
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| hoosierinhogville | Sep 3 2010, 09:14 PM Post #7 |
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Because they need a QB. And there is no rule against it. And he didn't evade punishment. He was - as you noted - given 12 months probation. His suspension was given by Oregon, and was n no way binding to another school. Further there are some inaccuracies in your post. He didn't have a long history of academic troubles. He was actually a good student in high school while attending a pretty good private school. He was actually being recruited by some ivy league schools for awhile. He went to a JUCO because he got in trouble for an incident remarkably similar to the on that landed him in trouble at Oregon. When he was in high school he was with some guys who robbed a man. He didn't really have anything to do with it, but he was there and so he was charged to. It is very much like what happened at Oregon. In that incident he didn't actually rob anything his teamate did, and he was simply there, I believe he also fled the scene along with his teammate, but i am not completely sure of that. Masoli was never found to be in posession of any stolen goods, and the guy who caught Masoli's teammate robbing him later said that he didn't think that Masoli stole anything. Basically he got in trouble because he didn't stop his teammate. Now I am not trying to just say that he shouldn't get in trouble or pay the prce for his poor decisions. And i personally wouldn't allow him on my football team, but if we are going to discuss it, we should at least have the facts straight. |
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| BTown11 | Sep 3 2010, 10:27 PM Post #8 |
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sorry, i guess the article i pulled some of this from misstated. either way he has a long documented past of trouble. and the punishment he evaded was oregon suspending him for the 2010 season. he transferred and didn't have to serve that punishment. |
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| brumdog44 | Sep 4 2010, 01:47 AM Post #9 |
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The grad school loophole allows a student to enroll at a school so long as they select a program not available at their old school, never attend a single class, and be eligible all the way through the end of first semester....so anything except a later bowl game. That's not right. |
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| tAmazingHoosier | Sep 4 2010, 02:46 AM Post #10 |
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Yeah I don't believe for a second that the shady dude had nothing to do with 2 robberies. Too fucking suspicious. Nobody has that bad of luck to get framed twice for two robberies. Once a shady thug, always a shady thug. I'll be damn surprised if he makes it throughout the entire season at Ole Miss. I'll need some verification for the Ivy League school recruiting, not buying that shit one bit. Have you heard his interviews? Everyone has their own opinions on subjects, respectively so, but come on now. Not like the shit happened by some freak accident. He's a thug, he affiliates with thugs. Shady people rob. Shady people hang with robbers. Period. No sugar coating that shit. It's all about ethics, and how you were brought up. Sadly, some people weren't given the chance to be parented through their childhood. He probably had a rocky start to life unlike a lot of us, so I'm not here to judge. Just saying, anyone can change their lifestyle and better themselves... and this guy shows no sign of doing so. Just (like Btown stated) evading his past. Does no good. |
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| brumdog44 | Sep 4 2010, 06:52 AM Post #11 |
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Houston Nutt -- Ole Miss' coach -- is a shady guy. The bottom line is that when a university hires guys like him, you will get things like this. Indiana University found this out all too well. Here is some background on Nutt. http://drinkingtheforty.blogspot.com/2007/04/houstons-nutt.html |
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| hoosierinhogville | Sep 4 2010, 08:25 AM Post #12 |
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Like I said, I am not necessarily defending him. He obviously has made some very poor choices, and i certainly wouldn't give him a second chance, but the fact is in both robberies the victim stated that he didn't actually take anything. That doesn't make what happened right, but there is a big difference between being with some friends who decide to rob a guy and you not leave or try to stop it and actually robbing someone yourself. As far as verification goes, there was a pretty good story on sports illustrated a few weeks back that talks about all the stuff that has went on in his lfe. It talks about his grades and the circumstances of the robberies in detail. Also as far as grades are concerned, I am pretty sure I heard some game announcers talking at one point last year about him being a 3.0 student at Oregon. |
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| hoosierinhogville | Sep 4 2010, 08:28 AM Post #13 |
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Don't get me started on that guy. You guys know the SEC has a ruled made for him? Nutt's first recruiting class at Ole Miss included like 15 oversigns. His intention was to take the guys he needed and put them on scholarship then set the other ones of at one of the many good Mississippi JUCO football programs and then reap the reward on them in two years. The SEC cut that shit out quick. Here in Arkansas there was never a Juco program like that until his last year here, and tried to do the same thing there. Actually, Houston Nutt was a big proponent in startng a state run Juco system here in Arkansas for this very purpose. |
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| MFuelling4 | Sep 4 2010, 09:32 AM Post #14 |
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Really?? You're not here to judge even though you spent the first two paragraphs doing exactly that?? |
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| mongo | Sep 4 2010, 09:36 AM Post #15 |
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Haha awesome. |
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