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OT: Pacers for Iverson??
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tAmazingHoosier Sep 13 2010, 04:31 PM Post #1
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5567983

Not ONE NBA team has reached out to AI's agent this year, 2 weeks before training camp. Why the hell not? He can still play ball and contribute quite more than some mediocre guards on the team will.

Wake up Larry, all's it takes is one call and the fact that you show interest could insight AI to ball for the Pacers.

Very long shot of course, but worthy of discussion.
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Sign Allen Iverson and maybe, maybe win 40 games instead of 35. the point of that is??? Pacers aren't competing for anything this year.

also, dont you think there's a reason why NO
ONE has tried to sign him?
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Style of play and defense seem to be pretty obvious choices.
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Pacers are trying to build a nucleus and get their young guys valuable playing time. Iverson won't come off the bench. Signing Iverson and then having to start him would hurt the pacers a lot more than it would help.
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Pacers are trying to build a nucleus and get their young guys valuable playing time. Iverson won't come off the bench. Signing Iverson and then having to start him would hurt the pacers a lot more than it would help.
Exactly.

There are so many reasons it won't work that it's difficult to figure out where to start.
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Iverson has to dominate the ball to be effective.......he hasn't been able to do that at a high level for quite a while. Most players adapt when they get older......Iverson is delusional. Another case of a player thinking he is better than he really is.
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Allen Iverson can't play anymore. Once a guy like him loses a step, he's done. He can't guard anybody in the league at this point....you're looking at a guy who averaged close to three steals a game in his prime. Last year in nearly 31 minutes per game, he was under one. He isn't big enough to stop anyone and isn't fast enough to get in front of them....isn't even fast enough to get into the passing lanes anymore.

And you sure as heck don't want him influencing a guy like Lance Stephenson.
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The Pacers have no room to sign him and are loaded at the wings. Last time I checked they had 15 players under contract and thats not including Rolle who management is super high on. I think he can still play but more as a back up and not a difference maker. Not a good fit for the Pacers.

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Bottom line: With zero NBA titles and no recent playoff success, the Pacers should be desperate to win. Especially when having the team in Indy is up for debate.
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Bottom line: With zero NBA titles and no recent playoff success, the Pacers should be desperate to win. Especially when having the team in Indy is up for debate.
They aren't going to compete next year regardless unless they were somehow able to coop Wade, Bosh, and Bron. Iverson literally would do absolutely nothing on that team but be a cancer. They have money to spend next offseason; you just have to take next year as a loss.

Not to mention the last thing the Pacers need is another 2 or 3. If anything, they need to scoop up some willing bodies at the 4 or 5. Yes, the Pacers have a better roster than they did last year (barely), but they're all at one position (the wing forward). They could very possibly be much worse next season than they were this last season. winning more than 30 wins would be an accomplishment.

you just have to go backward before you can go forward sometimes; and please believe that has much to do with the management gaffes of Bird and Co. If you're a Pacers fan the most you should hope for this season is moving some of your big expiring contracts (Jeff Foster, TJ Ford, etc.) for some long-term players. With luck they'll be able to get some attractive talent in exchange for Danny Granger, and a long shot is them being able to sign some attractive free agents with the money they'll no doubt have. Add a lottery pick, and you'll start looking at a much better team starting the 2011 season.

Allen Iverson does much more negative for a team than he does positive, especially when you're heading into a key year as far as player development goes. This season is absolutely crucial for Brandon Rush so you want to get him as many minutes as possible. Giving those minutes to an aging vet just makes your decision on him in the offseasn that much more ill-informed which an organization like the Pacers cannot afford.
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Bottom line: With zero NBA titles and no recent playoff success, the Pacers should be desperate to win. Especially when having the team in Indy is up for debate.
Allen Iverson doesn't help teams win anymore. Just ask the Memphis Grizzlies. One of the worst teams in the league with him, almost a playoff team (in the western conference) without him.
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That's great and all... but winning brings in money.

Conseco Fieldhouse upkeep= millions and millions

That's why the team is up for debate the next 5 years.


If they don't do something soon, we may no longer have a franchise in Indiana. That's all I'm saying.
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That's great and all... but winning brings in money.

Conseco Fieldhouse upkeep= millions and millions

That's why the team is up for debate the next 5 years.


If they don't do something soon, we may no longer have a franchise in Indiana. That's all I'm saying.
they won't win with or without allen iverson. actually it'll probably drive fans away. and the pacers have been losing money since they moved into the fieldhouse (aka even when they were good) which has resulted in a large sum owed to the capitol improvement board. them moving doesn't have as much to do with wins/losses as you think.
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That's great and all... but winning brings in money.

Conseco Fieldhouse upkeep= millions and millions

That's why the team is up for debate the next 5 years.


If they don't do something soon, we may no longer have a franchise in Indiana. That's all I'm saying.
they won't win with or without allen iverson. actually it'll probably drive fans away. and the pacers have been losing money since they moved into the fieldhouse (aka even when they were good) which has resulted in a large sum owed to the capitol improvement board. them moving doesn't have as much to do with wins/losses as you think.
I get the Iverson thing. Move on from that now.

And saying W/L's has little to do with it is hilarious. Attendance and jersey sales are a huge chunk of a teams revenue at the end of the day. If the Pacer's actually won, and fans actually wanted to go to games... and they didn't sell "Hansbrough" and "Murphy" jerseys at Champs Sports, maybe this conversation wouldn't be happening right now.
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That's great and all... but winning brings in money.

Conseco Fieldhouse upkeep= millions and millions

That's why the team is up for debate the next 5 years.


If they don't do something soon, we may no longer have a franchise in Indiana. That's all I'm saying.
they won't win with or without allen iverson. actually it'll probably drive fans away. and the pacers have been losing money since they moved into the fieldhouse (aka even when they were good) which has resulted in a large sum owed to the capitol improvement board. them moving doesn't have as much to do with wins/losses as you think.
I get the Iverson thing. Move on from that now.

And saying W/L's has little to do with it is hilarious. Attendance and jersey sales are a huge chunk of a teams revenue at the end of the day. If the Pacer's actually won, and fans actually wanted to go to games... and they didn't sell "Hansbrough" and "Murphy" jerseys at Champs Sports, maybe this conversation wouldn't be happening right now.
they're a small market team. they've been losing money for 10 years. they were good until 05-06. Yes, they've lost more money recently, but they were still losing money before that when they had a perennial contender. they're just a team playing in a stadium with a contract that was poorly negotiated.

i'd link you, but i don't feel like doing the work for you. look up all the troubles with the capitol improvement board and you'll see where the "moving away" thing stems from.

the last two teams to leave for new homes were the Charlotte Hornets and Seattle Supersonics who weren't exactly starving for wins at the time. (Seattle had a bad last season but the lease negotiation at Key Arena was why they left -- same with Charlotte only they had a great team)
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