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Victor Oladipo
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panchen_lama Dec 29 2010, 08:15 PM Post #31
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The problem with Creek is partly that he's still recovering, but also partly that he is not as good a player as he played last year. If he hadn't gotten injured he would have come back down to earth eventually. Now he's back down to earth AND recovering from an injury.
That's a very good point, Dreach. There's no way he was going to play during the BT season last year like he was before he got hurt. We were all enamored by the way he played during the Kentucky game and really got out hopes up. I think he would have had a good Big Ten season, but not as good as he was playing.

Going to be an excellent player, but we need to have some patience with him. The thing I love is by every report is a gym rat like none other. It sounds like he in constantly in the gym, so I don't doubt that he'll return to a really, really good player. At least I hope so. If he doesn't it won't be from a lack of effort.
i actually think he can get back to the level he was at before getting injured. he had some quite average, or even poor, games mixed in with his great efforts freshman year. so, it's not like he was just on an unbelievable one-way run. it was a very up and down campaign. the ups just happened to be really big ups. and, i think he can return to that level (of inconsistency, with the big plus side). so, i don't think it's his playing that was going to come down to earth or what not, but rather the appreciation for the player that he was and hopefully will be again. however, right now i don't see any signs of him being that guy that any nite could just go off...
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The problem with Creek is partly that he's still recovering, but also partly that he is not as good a player as he played last year. If he hadn't gotten injured he would have come back down to earth eventually. Now he's back down to earth AND recovering from an injury.
That's a very good point, Dreach. There's no way he was going to play during the BT season last year like he was before he got hurt. We were all enamored by the way he played during the Kentucky game and really got out hopes up. I think he would have had a good Big Ten season, but not as good as he was playing.

Going to be an excellent player, but we need to have some patience with him. The thing I love is by every report is a gym rat like none other. It sounds like he in constantly in the gym, so I don't doubt that he'll return to a really, really good player. At least I hope so. If he doesn't it won't be from a lack of effort.
i actually think he can get back to the level he was at before getting injured. he had some quite average, or even poor, games mixed in with his great efforts freshman year. so, it's not like he was just on an unbelievable one-way run. it was a very up and down campaign. the ups just happened to be really big ups. and, i think he can return to that level (of inconsistency, with the big plus side). so, i don't think it's his playing that was going to come down to earth or what not, but rather the appreciation for the player that he was and hopefully will be again. however, right now i don't see any signs of him being that guy that any nite could just go off...
Maybe it's my fuzzy memory or maybe it's yours but I don't think Creek was up an down at all. I think he was pretty much on fire right from the get go to right when he got hurt.
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obatskii Dec 29 2010, 09:37 PM Post #33
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The problem with Creek is partly that he's still recovering, but also partly that he is not as good a player as he played last year. If he hadn't gotten injured he would have come back down to earth eventually. Now he's back down to earth AND recovering from an injury.
That's a very good point, Dreach. There's no way he was going to play during the BT season last year like he was before he got hurt. We were all enamored by the way he played during the Kentucky game and really got out hopes up. I think he would have had a good Big Ten season, but not as good as he was playing.

Going to be an excellent player, but we need to have some patience with him. The thing I love is by every report is a gym rat like none other. It sounds like he in constantly in the gym, so I don't doubt that he'll return to a really, really good player. At least I hope so. If he doesn't it won't be from a lack of effort.
i actually think he can get back to the level he was at before getting injured. he had some quite average, or even poor, games mixed in with his great efforts freshman year. so, it's not like he was just on an unbelievable one-way run. it was a very up and down campaign. the ups just happened to be really big ups. and, i think he can return to that level (of inconsistency, with the big plus side). so, i don't think it's his playing that was going to come down to earth or what not, but rather the appreciation for the player that he was and hopefully will be again. however, right now i don't see any signs of him being that guy that any nite could just go off...
Maybe it's my fuzzy memory or maybe it's yours but I don't think Creek was up an down at all. I think he was pretty much on fire right from the get go to right when he got hurt.
I'm that way too, and maybe it's alcohol based, but it seemed that towards the end of his freshman year he was either really good or absolutely on fire. I will probably wince looking at the box scores from last year, but that's my memory at least.
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I mean he's a streak shooter, so he's going to be up and down sometimes. I do think he will become a very reliable scorer once he regains strength. like i've been saying, his recovery is 0% mental. he knows he can do it, and he doesn't feel pain; the problems come running up and down the court and just not having the leg strength to do it. it will come with time.

as for him driving the lane: i have been very impressed with him this season when he does that. obviously, with that assessment i would say that he needs to be doing it much more because it usually ends with great results. i think creek will start to regain some of his old self once we get into conference season. that injury takes a little over a year to really recover, and we're just now getting there.
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The problem with Creek is partly that he's still recovering, but also partly that he is not as good a player as he played last year. If he hadn't gotten injured he would have come back down to earth eventually. Now he's back down to earth AND recovering from an injury.
That's a very good point, Dreach. There's no way he was going to play during the BT season last year like he was before he got hurt. We were all enamored by the way he played during the Kentucky game and really got out hopes up. I think he would have had a good Big Ten season, but not as good as he was playing.

Going to be an excellent player, but we need to have some patience with him. The thing I love is by every report is a gym rat like none other. It sounds like he in constantly in the gym, so I don't doubt that he'll return to a really, really good player. At least I hope so. If he doesn't it won't be from a lack of effort.
i actually think he can get back to the level he was at before getting injured. he had some quite average, or even poor, games mixed in with his great efforts freshman year. so, it's not like he was just on an unbelievable one-way run. it was a very up and down campaign. the ups just happened to be really big ups. and, i think he can return to that level (of inconsistency, with the big plus side). so, i don't think it's his playing that was going to come down to earth or what not, but rather the appreciation for the player that he was and hopefully will be again. however, right now i don't see any signs of him being that guy that any nite could just go off...
Maybe it's my fuzzy memory or maybe it's yours but I don't think Creek was up an down at all. I think he was pretty much on fire right from the get go to right when he got hurt.
I'm that way too, and maybe it's alcohol based, but it seemed that towards the end of his freshman year he was either really good or absolutely on fire. I will probably wince looking at the box scores from last year, but that's my memory at least.
Nah. I just checked the box scores and he was really, REALLY good in just about every game. Even in his worst game against Pitt when he scored only 8 points, he had 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks. I mean HELLO! Would love to get his worst game from everybody on the team this year.
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To keep the positivity going, was anybody else encouraged by Creek's last game? I think he showed that he is starting to trust his knee more by driving to the basket and getting some shots to fall. He still needs to keep working and trusting his outside game, but I was pleased with how he played at times last game. Hopefully he can build off that 5 minute stretch where he was driving to the rim.
unfortunately i was not impressed. he is nowhere near the explosive player he was prior to injury. he is struggling to create his own shot and is not mixing it up as much off the ball in the interior. yes, good to see him hit a couple shots. but i did not think his drives toward the basket, the few there were, were that impressive or demonstrated the level of athleticism that a healthy creek surely will. i really don't see his game coming around till next fall.
+1

He was 3 of 8 from the field and 0 of 5 from three. He hit a couple of shots in transition but at this point he's not creating anything in the half court set. I thought by this point he would be improving, but he doesn't look any better now than he did to start the season.
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Another positive:

we've played poorly, but it's not as if we were totally out of the game.
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Another positive:

we've played poorly, but it's not as if we were totally out of the game.
Don't mean to be an ass, but that makes no sense. If you can say that after OSU, then it means something. Not after PSU.
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Another positive:

we've played poorly, but it's not as if we were totally out of the game.
Don't mean to be an ass, but that makes no sense. If you can say that after OSU, then it means something. Not after PSU.
What's the worse loss in the BT this season? Maybe losing at home to Penn St, Iowa, or IU.
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I love Oladipo, I'm sold on this kid and I think down the road he could be really good. He plays with the most energy on the team and its not even close. The highlights are fun too.
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I've been shocked that he's decent from 3-point land. Granted, it's a small sample size, but he's still shooting the same as Roth.
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Adidas is gonna make some bank on #4 jerseys the next few years.


I'd already have mine if Adidas got their asses in gear and made them available. If anybody gets a chance to visit the Varsity Shop in the Hall before I get the chance to visit, do report back!
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methinks VO might be the "lead by example" guy we need.
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I've been shocked that he's decent from 3-point land. Granted, it's a small sample size, but he's still shooting the same as Roth.
My only issue is with his free throw shooting.
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I've been shocked that he's decent from 3-point land. Granted, it's a small sample size, but he's still shooting the same as Roth.
My only issue is with his free throw shooting.
Fortunately, that's probably the easiest thing to fix.
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