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Bad Defense vs. Hot shooting
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dreachon Dec 31 2010, 09:09 PM Post #16
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I mean it's obviously a bit of both. OSU was making so many they were laughing at how hot they were. Like I said in an earlier thread, all the guards are so focused on being down low that they don't get out fast enough to challenge the 3. Unfortunately in this game, they also weren't good enough to make a difference in the paint.

Some other things on my mind.
Is Victor Oladipo the best player on the team? I mean when you take into consideration overall play. Offense + defense. If he's not, he's close.

The lack of aggressiveness/desire/efficiency/enthusiasm/whateverthefuckyouwanttocallit from Verdell Jones is the most disappointing thing on this year's team. I really thought he would make a big jump this year. He went from the best player on the team to the 4th best? Watford, Hulls and Oladipo have all been better.

I really do think that later in the year teams won't be able to shoot so well against us and we'll win some games. I predicted 14-16 and I still think that. Being open from 3 doesn't guarantee a basket. Teams just as often can't buy a bucket as much as they hit everything in sight. I think it will turnaround for us eventually.
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Mr Gray Dec 31 2010, 09:41 PM Post #17
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a little of both. still, much better overall than the PSU game.
didn't you read the instructions on this thread....a little of both isn't an acceptable answer. If it only happened once or twice, then you could run with that....but for 3 years, everyone has had a field day on us......sorry Btown
I see your black and white thinking has now made it over to the sports board.

In case nobody noticeed, Elston, Pritchard, and Capo played a total of 24 minutes and committed 12 fouls. We committed thirty fouls. So going man would have done exactly what?

We needed quicker rotations on the zone. Going man would have done nothing but left us with a couple of guys on the floor at the end. Creek is killing us on rotations.
hate to spoil it for you brum...but when it's raining 3's on your defense, you can't stick with a zone, regardless of foul trouble, even if that means giving up a few easy ones once you've been beat down low.
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I mean it's obviously a bit of both. OSU was making so many they were laughing at how hot they were.
I think they were laughing at the fact that we kept leaving them open.....I would have laughed also.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dedicatedIUfan Dec 31 2010, 10:12 PM Post #19
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Instead of fronting a guy who is taller and more athletic, which makes it easy to throw the lob, play behind him and force him to keep making shots all game.
you must have missed the part where we played him from the back. basically, IU has no post option which makes you unbalanced. An all-american like Sullinger will make you pay every time. and i mean EVERY time.
Yeah that Sullinger guy is kinda good.

I am not sure how we will stop him either
Painter is a good coach, he will figure it out!
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brumdog44 Dec 31 2010, 11:13 PM Post #20
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a little of both. still, much better overall than the PSU game.
didn't you read the instructions on this thread....a little of both isn't an acceptable answer. If it only happened once or twice, then you could run with that....but for 3 years, everyone has had a field day on us......sorry Btown
I see your black and white thinking has now made it over to the sports board.

In case nobody noticeed, Elston, Pritchard, and Capo played a total of 24 minutes and committed 12 fouls. We committed thirty fouls. So going man would have done exactly what?

We needed quicker rotations on the zone. Going man would have done nothing but left us with a couple of guys on the floor at the end. Creek is killing us on rotations.
hate to spoil it for you brum...but when it's raining 3's on your defense, you can't stick with a zone, regardless of foul trouble, even if that means giving up a few easy ones once you've been beat down low.
They got to the line 38 times. We committed 30 fouls. Anytime they got any kind of isolation or penetration they either made the shot or we fouled them. By half we had 8 fouls on our big men at half and with 17 minutes left Elston was done, Pritchard had four (and we all know he was going to get his fifth the next time he got isolated). We had to resort to putting Rivers on Sullinger.

Let's not act like man to man would have mattered, because it wouldn't have. The problem wasn't in playing zone, it was on the lack of rotation we had in it.
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Sounds like a coaching issue to me.
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