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Crean Interview After NW Loss
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Maker13 Jan 11 2011, 09:34 PM Post #46
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Who's a good coach in your eyes, evil?
Evil will say Coach K, Roy Williams, Izzo, Pitino, Calipari, Calhoun, etc.........but yet won't recognize them getting the best players in the country each and every year, therefore making his statement totally untrue and useless. The best coaches in the country are the ones that CONSISTENTLY take mediocre teams to the NCAA tournament, IMO. How many of them are there?
The top coaches that come to mind for me are Coach K, Izzo, Boeheim, Self maybe. I think Calipari is a very good coach and could probably do pretty well with lesser talent if he ever went legit. Roy relies on talent, I think Pitino does too. I like Jamie Dixon at Pitt, and Mike Anderson at Missouri. I'm also pretty bullish with Painter. He adapts his offense around whatever he has available to pull more out than you'd expect, and always has everyone playing all out on defense.
Dixon, Anderson, and Bo Ryan are three coaches who get the most out of lesser talent. How many 5-star players or McDonald's All-Americans have these three recruited? Hardly any. Yet they keep making the tournament and turn kids whom most of us have never heard of in high school into good college players and possibly NBA talent.
I very much agree. And Bo should have been included in that list, complete oversight on my part.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
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BTown11 Jan 11 2011, 09:52 PM Post #48
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
seriously dude, you have :deadhorse: beyond belief. we know where you stand. you don't have to repeat it over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. you are entitled to your opinion, time will be the ultimate decider.
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Evilempire Jan 11 2011, 09:53 PM Post #49
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Why not, you do the same thing.
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Why not, you do the same thing.
that's literally the only thing you talk about on here though. and most of the time when i stated my opinion it was replying to you, which i've decided to stop doing. does no good. we will see in time.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
he's a horse beater.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
None of the above. I'd just like to see IU hire a guy who can actually coach and make players better. There isn't one player on the roster who has improved much more than just a natural progression with possibly the exception of Hulls.....and that's mostly a shooting thing which you normally work on by yourself.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
None of the above. I'd just like to see IU hire a guy who can actually coach and make players better. There isn't one player on the roster who has improved much more than just a natural progression with possibly the exception of Hulls.....and that's mostly a shooting thing which you normally work on by yourself.
Yet you were hiding under a rock when Crean started landing all the top-notch recruits. Seriously, you are so full of shit.
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Why not, you do the same thing.
that's literally the only thing you talk about on here though. and most of the time when i stated my opinion it was replying to you, which i've decided to stop doing. does no good. we will see in time.
Not really. You start threads about how encouraged you are by double digit losses, 8 minutes of effort out of 40, etc. I just comment on them. How many threads in the last month have I started about IU not hustling, Crean doing dumb shit, etc?.........compare that to the number of your sunshine and lollipops threads.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
None of the above. I'd just like to see IU hire a guy who can actually coach and make players better. There isn't one player on the roster who has improved much more than just a natural progression with possibly the exception of Hulls.....and that's mostly a shooting thing which you normally work on by yourself.
Yet you were hiding under a rock when Crean started landing all the top-notch recruits. Seriously, you are so full of shit.
Not at all. It's been thrown in my face several times that I said I might stop criticizing Crean for signing certain guys. Unfortunately, he won't use his bench as a motivator for guys some of you keep saying aren't very good to begin with. How does that make any sense at all? Maybe you just haven't been reading the right threads.
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I don't understand why some people would want current success and continued pretty good seasons instead of making a full rehabilitation, struggling for a few years, and being able to compete at a high level after that. to each their own, but i'd rather us not take shortcuts in the rebuilding process.
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I've listed my 'tiers' of coaches many times, and Self/RWilliams aren't in the top tier.

First the homers said this season wasn't about wins and losses, which I partly agree with.

Then the homers told me you had to beat up on ridiculously crappy teams to learn how to win even though IU still hasn't beaten any other type of team.

Now the homers are saying that Crean not developing players isn't his fault because they aren't very talented to begin with. So I guess they will be standing up for teachers who don't get 'dumb' kids to improve in the classroom.

After reading some of the comments some of you make, I have come to the conclusion that either:

1. Some of you are complete Crean apologists.
2. Some of you have no idea what is going on.
3. Some of you are just saying stuff like that to get reactions out of people.
And after reading many of your comments on this board, I've come to 3 of my own possible conclusions:

1. You are a troll disguised as an IU fan.
2. You are just saying stuff to get reactions out of people.
3. You're a total douchebag.

Which one is it?
None of the above. I'd just like to see IU hire a guy who can actually coach and make players better. There isn't one player on the roster who has improved much more than just a natural progression with possibly the exception of Hulls.....and that's mostly a shooting thing which you normally work on by yourself.
Yet you were hiding under a rock when Crean started landing all the top-notch recruits. Seriously, you are so full of shit.
Not at all. It's been thrown in my face several times that I said I might stop criticizing Crean for signing certain guys. Unfortunately, he won't use his bench as a motivator for guys some of you keep saying aren't very good to begin with. How does that make any sense at all? Maybe you just haven't been reading the right threads.
Trust me, Evil, I haven't been too happy with how the team has been playing either. All 3 college basketball teams I like to root for are terrible this year: IU, Evansville (hometown), and Western Kentucky (my school). But I see no point in getting bent out of shape over it. I look at this IU team and see so many flaws. There's no true point guard to run the offense, there's no post game, no leadership, and no go-to guy. Will that change next year with Zeller and Etherington coming in? Maybe a little. But I want to stay positive with the incoming talent. Crean did a great job up a Marquette and wasn't getting any of the big name recruits like he has coming in the next couple of seasons.
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