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Some of Ron Paul's positions
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HoosierLars Sep 18 2011, 10:34 AM Post #1
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Wow Brum, as a Ron Paul supporter, you must be a member of the "little L" wing of the libertarian party. Maybe there were some members of the "little kkk" wing of the Klan who supported Obama...

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/global-warming/
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“The greatest hoax I think that has been around for many, many years if not hundreds of years has been this hoax on [...] global warming


http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/
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But Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don’t want to or need to participate.

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system?

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/taxes/
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Ron Paul supports the elimination of the income tax and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). He asserts that Congress had no power to impose a direct income tax and has introduced legislation to repeal of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, which was ratified on February 3, 1913.

An income tax is the most degrading and totalitarian of all possible taxes. Its implementation wrongly suggests that the government owns the lives and labor of the citizens it is supposed to represent. Tellingly, “a heavy progressive or graduated income tax” is Plank #2 of the Communist Manifesto, which was written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and first published in 1848.
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brumdog44 Sep 18 2011, 11:08 AM Post #2
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Okay, fine, you win, whatever. I still find his views on most subjects very interesting and very intelligent.

I still want to know why you won't vote for me. Why do you continue to support RINOs? Better yet, which RINO is it this week? Is it the one who signed an executive order to give 12 year old girls an immunization against the HPV virus, or is it the one who claims that the shot causes mental retardation?

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I don't know who made the latter claim, but if your mom got the vaccination, it helps make his case.

I vote for the best candidate, not for the one with an "R" by his/her name, so the "RINO" label means nothing to me, but nice try.

I would vote for Paul if he won the nomination. I'm smart enough to know Cain is a LONG shot at this point.

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I vote for the best candidate, not for the one with an "R" by his/her name, so the "RINO" label means nothing to me, but nice try.

Sure you do.

The fact that you don't know who made the retardation claim shows how much of a political homer you are. You would have been all over Obama if he had made a statement like that.
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I don't know who made the latter claim, but if your mom got the vaccination, it helps make his case.

Lars,

Michele made the comment and pretty much ended her race. She totally fucked that up because she had a legit knock on Perry that could have brought her back in. She instead went on the Today show the day after the debate and ended her chances. She had Perry on the run and fell flat on her face and he got away.

Well it frees up a lot of weekends for me because I now have no dog in the fight and regardless who are next president is he will be a clown.
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BTown11 Sep 18 2011, 06:04 PM Post #6
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BG --

how did that ruin her race? I have no idea what the fuck you're referring to, which leads me to
believe that most of America doesn't either..
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BG --

how did that ruin her race? I have no idea what the fuck you're referring to, which leads me to
believe that most of America doesn't either..
Btown,

To win a primary you need two things. $$$$ and volunteers
Now McCain survived for about 4 month on his own money and die hard volunteers. Michele does not have McCain like money.

Michele last week on the today show said something to the effect of "A mother I had never met before came up to me after the debate and thanked me. She said her daughter took the HPV vaccine and a a result became mentally retarded."

What she said might of happened but it shifted the debate from whether Perry was guilty of corruption. I believe Texas was the only state that required the vaccine. Texas actually never required it because the state legislature struck down the executive order.

Perry had two issues there that could have popped his balloon.

One his use of an executive order to require vaccinations.

Two The crony capitalism because his former chief of staff was the one pushing for the executive order and he now works for the manufacturer.

So instead talking about corruption and abuse of power she went after the vaccine. That blew up in her face as the FDA had no reports of the vaccine causing mental retardation.

Hence her support base took a hit and her fundraising took a hit.



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brumdog44 Sep 18 2011, 06:34 PM Post #8
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BG --

how did that ruin her race? I have no idea what the fuck you're referring to, which leads me to
believe that most of America doesn't either..
Her race was already done. You can only be crazy for so long between episodes.

http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/461290_Candidate-Bachmann-s-comments-on-cancer-vaccine-for-girls-upsets-physicians.html
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BG --

how did that ruin her race? I have no idea what the fuck you're referring to, which leads me to
believe that most of America doesn't either..
Her race was already done. You can only be crazy for so long between episodes.

http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/461290_Candidate-Bachmann-s-comments-on-cancer-vaccine-for-girls-upsets-physicians.html
I'm well aware that she is the first mentally handicapped person to run for office, but i don't think one incident ruined her chances. She has a long history of mental retardation.
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[utube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JyvkjSKMLw&feature=related[/utube]
I find this very disappointing. This and some of the other items I've seen lately would lead me not to vote for him.

Doesn't mean I don't still find many of his takes very interesting, and in a lot of cases, correct. Still don't understand why you like neo-cons and not him.
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[utube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JyvkjSKMLw&feature=related[/utube]
I find this very disappointing. This and some of the other items I've seen lately would lead me not to vote for him.

Doesn't mean I don't still find many of his takes very interesting, and in a lot of cases, correct. Still don't understand why you like neo-cons and not him.
it looks as though Paul views evolution (likely meaning the version where everything originated from one organism) as a theory, which is technically what it is. Do you have a problem with someone not viewing this theory as "fact"?
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Not going to get into this again, it's been done to death.
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Not going to get into this again, it's been done to death.
not asking to debate the merits of evolution...I've just never heard you say that you expect it to be thought of as fact
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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eelbor Sep 20 2011, 07:27 AM Post #15
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Not going to get into this again, it's been done to death.
not asking to debate the merits of evolution...I've just never heard you say that you expect it to be thought of as fact
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sup·po·si·tion noun /ˌsəpəˈziSHən/ 
suppositions, plural

1.An uncertain belief



hy·poth·e·sis noun /hîˈpäTHəsis/ 
hypotheses, plural

1.A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation

2.A proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth



the·o·ry noun /ˈTHçərç/  /ˈTHi(ə)rç/ 
theories, plural

1.A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained

2.A set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based

3.An idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action

4.A collection of propositions to illustrate the principles of a subject



I would be shocked if Brum stated it was fact. It just works better with more supporting evidence to explain things than anything else we have run across to this point. By being a scientific theory it is generally accepted it could be shown to be wrong at some future point if data is found to suggest so.

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