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chops1221 Nov 22 2011, 12:53 PM Post #31
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1st of all, YES, there is a left & a right in this country. The Tea Party more closely represents the right, and occupy more closely represents the left. It's amazing to me that the Tea Party, who was almost entirely non-violent, was called "terrorists" by the left, and those same people seem to support "occupy" who have stated goals of violence and terror.
This is a massive load of horseshit
no...it's actually dead on. Do you have any substance to go with your quote, because I can show you numerous quotes from Occupy leaders.
The Occupy movement has leaders?
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1st of all, YES, there is a left & a right in this country. The Tea Party more closely represents the right, and occupy more closely represents the left. It's amazing to me that the Tea Party, who was almost entirely non-violent, was called "terrorists" by the left, and those same people seem to support "occupy" who have stated goals of violence and terror.
This is a massive load of horseshit
no...it's actually dead on. Do you have any substance to go with your quote, because I can show you numerous quotes from Occupy leaders.
The Occupy movement has leaders?
yes. I'm not trying to be a dick with you here, but yes, it absolutely has leaders. It has been organized and orchestrated at a high level, and many of the occupiers have genuine intentions, but are unfortunately being taken advantage of.
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Mr Gray Nov 22 2011, 01:06 PM Post #33
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Your list is a piece of propaganda.
that is true, but I think it accurately illustrates the problems in this movement.....like I said, I want them to be able to protest, but this police resistance, and violence isn't the way to go. Peaceful protest is a good thing.
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chops1221 Nov 22 2011, 01:09 PM Post #34
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1st of all, YES, there is a left & a right in this country. The Tea Party more closely represents the right, and occupy more closely represents the left. It's amazing to me that the Tea Party, who was almost entirely non-violent, was called "terrorists" by the left, and those same people seem to support "occupy" who have stated goals of violence and terror.
This is a massive load of horseshit
no...it's actually dead on. Do you have any substance to go with your quote, because I can show you numerous quotes from Occupy leaders.
The Occupy movement has leaders?
yes. I'm not trying to be a dick with you here, but yes, it absolutely has leaders. It has been organized and orchestrated at a high level, and many of the occupiers have genuine intentions, but are unfortunately being taken advantage of.
Who are the leaders, and where have they advocated violence?
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I just pointed out 4 things that I know are 100% NOT related to the occupy movement from the list you posted...and that's just ONE city. Don't mistake proximity of a a crime for cause. You're asking me to prove that they aren't related? I'm not the one that made the claim. I CAN prove that those in Olympia that I talked about weren't related. I've read the police reports, my fiancee is assigned with covering that event for a publication here and I've been heavily involved in her research. It casts a pretty dark shadow on the credibility of your list.

Also, you're saying the Occupy movement has leaders? lol...do some reading, son. You obviously don't know much about what they're doing.

Again, the occupy movement is pretty lame in the way they are trying to "enact change", but to tie unrelated crimes with them is disingenuous and really hurts the cause you're trying to promote...

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I just pointed out 4 things that I know are 100% NOT related to the occupy movement from the list you posted...and that's just ONE city. Don't mistake proximity of a a crime for cause. You're asking me to prove that they aren't related? I'm not the one that made the claim. I CAN prove that those in Olympia that I talked about weren't related. I've read the police reports, my fiancee is assigned with covering that event for a publication here and I've been heavily involved in her research. It casts a pretty dark shadow on the credibility of your list.

Also, you're saying the Occupy movement has leaders? lol...do some reading, son. You obviously don't know much about what they're doing.

Again, the occupy movement is pretty lame in the way they are trying to "enact change", but to tie unrelated crimes with them is disingenuous and really hurts the cause you're trying to promote...

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brian, they want you to think that they don't have leaders....but they do. It's actually been orchestrated for a long time, and by some very serious people. yes I do read....we just read different things brian. Actually....I think I posted on this thread or another one very recently about the planning that has gone into this, and how so many of the same names keep popping up.....here it is http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8218900&t=7090594
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women have been raped at these protests and bri isn't taking it too seriously.....interesting.
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i take the crimes committed seriously..just not those that have no other reason than "proximity" to point the finger. If someone slowed-down to look at the tents while driving by and caused a fender-bender, would that be the occupy's fault also?

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1st of all, YES, there is a left & a right in this country. The Tea Party more closely represents the right, and occupy more closely represents the left. It's amazing to me that the Tea Party, who was almost entirely non-violent, was called "terrorists" by the left, and those same people seem to support "occupy" who have stated goals of violence and terror.
This is a massive load of horseshit
no...it's actually dead on. Do you have any substance to go with your quote, because I can show you numerous quotes from Occupy leaders.
The Occupy movement has leaders?
yes. I'm not trying to be a dick with you here, but yes, it absolutely has leaders. It has been organized and orchestrated at a high level, and many of the occupiers have genuine intentions, but are unfortunately being taken advantage of.
But the Tea Party is a grass roots effort with no affiliation with the Koch brothers who aren't taking advantage of people.
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my favorite OWS story is the one where food is being brought in for the "protesters" . When they found out that the homeless were coming there to eat the OWSers replied "thats not fair, thats our food"


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Also, you're saying the Occupy movement has leaders? lol...do some reading, son. You obviously don't know much about what they're doing.
There definitely are leaders. I was interested in the occupy movement to use as a springboard for some of my own ideas, and its not that hard to track them down. There's individuals who planned the time and place and set-up schedules for meetings, websites, social media advertising, and so on if you feel like finding out who they are for yourself.

Personally, I don't understand why the occupiers insist upon spending the night. The original message was to shutdown Wall Street, which isn't open at night. Instead of filling up parks with drunk college students and homeless, they'd have individuals wanting to make a difference and that's refreshed enough to actually think critically about a strategy.
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1st of all, YES, there is a left & a right in this country. The Tea Party more closely represents the right, and occupy more closely represents the left. It's amazing to me that the Tea Party, who was almost entirely non-violent, was called "terrorists" by the left, and those same people seem to support "occupy" who have stated goals of violence and terror.
This is a massive load of horseshit
no...it's actually dead on. Do you have any substance to go with your quote, because I can show you numerous quotes from Occupy leaders.
The Occupy movement has leaders?
yes. I'm not trying to be a dick with you here, but yes, it absolutely has leaders. It has been organized and orchestrated at a high level, and many of the occupiers have genuine intentions, but are unfortunately being taken advantage of.
But the Tea Party is a grass roots effort with no affiliation with the Koch brothers who aren't taking advantage of people.
true. the Koch brothers did get involved after the fact by donating money and trying to capitalize on the movement, but they did no planning.
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HoosierLars Nov 23 2011, 10:35 AM Post #43
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Interesting that Gray is willing to acknowledge that the Koch brothers have had some input regarding the Tea Party, but Brian, Chops, and Brum are still living in a state of denial regarding the roots of the Occupy movement. The latter is just decent, law-abiding Americans (errrr..... scratch the law-abiding part) who want to promote their socialist world view.
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brumdog44 Nov 24 2011, 10:44 AM Post #44
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Interesting that Gray is willing to acknowledge that the Koch brothers have had some input regarding the Tea Party, but Brian, Chops, and Brum are still living in a state of denial regarding the roots of the Occupy movement. The latter is just decent, law-abiding Americans (errrr..... scratch the law-abiding part) who want to promote their socialist world view.
Blah blah blah socialist blah blah lather, rinse, repeat.
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Mr Gray Nov 24 2011, 10:58 AM Post #45
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Interesting that Gray is willing to acknowledge that the Koch brothers have had some input regarding the Tea Party, but Brian, Chops, and Brum are still living in a state of denial regarding the roots of the Occupy movement. The latter is just decent, law-abiding Americans (errrr..... scratch the law-abiding part) who want to promote their socialist world view.
Blah blah blah socialist blah blah lather, rinse, repeat.
brum, are you saying the the occupiers aren't promoting socialism, or that your just tired of hearing lars talk about socialism?
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