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Huntsman passes Paul in New Hampshire!
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hoosierinhogville Dec 22 2011, 03:24 PM Post #31
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What's really funny is Lars thinks that somehow, if elected, Ron Paul would/could totally bypass congress and totally change our foreign policy overnight....LOL!! WOW!! Is that really what you are worried about Lars?
That is what I have trying to get through on. Nobody thinks he could do that. Not even Paul.
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Aaron -- that's not exactly a ringing endorsement from Beck, certainly nothing that is going to have any real affect on votes. If Keith Olberman were to say 'I'm not really a big fan of Obama, but I certainly would vote for him over Bush', it's not exactly a game changer.
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Aaron -- that's not exactly a ringing endorsement from Beck, certainly nothing that is going to have any real affect on votes. If Keith Olberman were to say 'I'm not really a big fan of Obama, but I certainly would vote for him over Bush', it's not exactly a game changer.
I agree, but it is actually a move towards Paul from where he has been in the past...and some dude named "Joe Pags" who was substituting for him said the same thing....both have said in the past that they wouldn't vote for him...a slight change of tune.
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Aaron -- that's not exactly a ringing endorsement from Beck, certainly nothing that is going to have any real affect on votes. If Keith Olberman were to say 'I'm not really a big fan of Obama, but I certainly would vote for him over Bush', it's not exactly a game changer.
I agree, but it is actually a move towards Paul from where he has been in the past...and some dude named "Joe Pags" who was substituting for him said the same thing....both have said in the past that they wouldn't vote for him...a slight change of tune.
They also said that in an atmosphere where there wasn't even a miniscule chance of him getting the nomination. I guarantee that in 2008 if Paul had been the nominee, they would have voted for him.
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What's really funny is Lars thinks that somehow, if elected, Ron Paul would/could totally bypass congress and totally change our foreign policy overnight....LOL!! WOW!! Is that really what you are worried about Lars?
Actually, the President has a great deal of authority to affect foreign policy, much more so than fiscal policy, which is mainly set by Congress.
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I think Ron Paul's foreign policy is so bad it would outweigh any economic policy advantages he has compared to other candidates.

Gray, this does give him an advantage when discussing any foreign policy issue. He has one standard answer for all questions:

Interviewer: "What do you think about Obama's Libya policy?"
Paul: "Well, what vital US interests do we have in [CountryXYZ]? Take a look at Iraq, the neocons rushed to war, and we just need to bring all of our troops back to our country. *mumbling* abolish the federal reserve *mumbling*"

This kind of reminds me of how liberals compare every conflict to Vietnam...
you might not have seen my previous comments about Paul's foreign policy, but let me ask you a question Lars....give me one reason that we would be more safe as a nation under the command of any other candidate.
Many of the candidates will not allow Iran to build nuclear weapons.
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I think Ron Paul's foreign policy is so bad it would outweigh any economic policy advantages he has compared to other candidates.

Gray, this does give him an advantage when discussing any foreign policy issue. He has one standard answer for all questions:

Interviewer: "What do you think about Obama's Libya policy?"
Paul: "Well, what vital US interests do we have in [CountryXYZ]? Take a look at Iraq, the neocons rushed to war, and we just need to bring all of our troops back to our country. *mumbling* abolish the federal reserve *mumbling*"

This kind of reminds me of how liberals compare every conflict to Vietnam...
you might not have seen my previous comments about Paul's foreign policy, but let me ask you a question Lars....give me one reason that we would be more safe as a nation under the command of any other candidate.
Many of the candidates will not allow Iran to build nuclear weapons.
that makes you feel safer? Do you think Iran is a nuclear threat to the United States?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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HoosierLars Dec 23 2011, 11:16 PM Post #38
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I think Ron Paul's foreign policy is so bad it would outweigh any economic policy advantages he has compared to other candidates.

Gray, this does give him an advantage when discussing any foreign policy issue. He has one standard answer for all questions:

Interviewer: "What do you think about Obama's Libya policy?"
Paul: "Well, what vital US interests do we have in [CountryXYZ]? Take a look at Iraq, the neocons rushed to war, and we just need to bring all of our troops back to our country. *mumbling* abolish the federal reserve *mumbling*"

This kind of reminds me of how liberals compare every conflict to Vietnam...
you might not have seen my previous comments about Paul's foreign policy, but let me ask you a question Lars....give me one reason that we would be more safe as a nation under the command of any other candidate.
Many of the candidates will not allow Iran to build nuclear weapons.
that makes you feel safer? Do you think Iran is a nuclear threat to the United States?
Huge threat to middle east and world security and prosperity.
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Mr Gray Dec 24 2011, 07:57 AM Post #39
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I think Ron Paul's foreign policy is so bad it would outweigh any economic policy advantages he has compared to other candidates.

Gray, this does give him an advantage when discussing any foreign policy issue. He has one standard answer for all questions:

Interviewer: "What do you think about Obama's Libya policy?"
Paul: "Well, what vital US interests do we have in [CountryXYZ]? Take a look at Iraq, the neocons rushed to war, and we just need to bring all of our troops back to our country. *mumbling* abolish the federal reserve *mumbling*"

This kind of reminds me of how liberals compare every conflict to Vietnam...
you might not have seen my previous comments about Paul's foreign policy, but let me ask you a question Lars....give me one reason that we would be more safe as a nation under the command of any other candidate.
Many of the candidates will not allow Iran to build nuclear weapons.
that makes you feel safer? Do you think Iran is a nuclear threat to the United States?
Huge threat to middle east and world security and prosperity.
you don't seem to be referring to national "defense" rather national "offense".
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The French "prepared" to re-fight WWI by building the Marginot Line, and got their asses kicked in WW2. I believe you and other Paulites are repeating that same mistake now.
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Jon Huntsman: They pick corn in Iowa; they pick presidents in New Hampshire
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/29/jon-huntsman-they-pick-corn-in-iowa-they-pick-presidents-in-new-hampshire/

Pretty brash statement by by newest GOP favorite...
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Jon Huntsman: They pick corn in Iowa; they pick presidents in New Hampshire
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/29/jon-huntsman-they-pick-corn-in-iowa-they-pick-presidents-in-new-hampshire/

Pretty brash statement by by newest GOP favorite...
Nice link.
What do you think of this one...RCP New Hampshire Poll Average: Romney-38; Paul-18.3;Gingrich-17;Huntsman-10.5

Way to go "newest GOP favorite" you are only down by 27.5 points to Romney, 7.8 to Paul, and 6.5 to Gingrich.

Brash words? More like pandering.
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Jon Huntsman: They pick corn in Iowa; they pick presidents in New Hampshire
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/29/jon-huntsman-they-pick-corn-in-iowa-they-pick-presidents-in-new-hampshire/

Pretty brash statement by by newest GOP favorite...
Nice link.
What do you think of this one...RCP New Hampshire Poll Average: Romney-38; Paul-18.3;Gingrich-17;Huntsman-10.5

Way to go "newest GOP favorite" you are only down by 27.5 points to Romney, 7.8 to Paul, and 6.5 to Gingrich.

Brash words? More like pandering.
I agree there was some pandering going on there.
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Paul is firmly in 2nd in New Hampshire right now...that is a pleasant surprise for me.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/5/santorum-gets-big-bounce-new-hampshire/?page=all#pagebreak
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Paul is firmly in 2nd in New Hampshire right now...that is a pleasant surprise for me.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/5/santorum-gets-big-bounce-new-hampshire/?page=all#pagebreak
He has been right up there for awhile. It isn't really a surprise. Santorum will get a bump and probably end up in third though he can't really count on the same amount of evangelical support in NH as he had in Iowa.

To me, NH isn't really any bigger deal to me than is Iowa. The results may be more indicitave of the general voting public, but NH has so few delegates that really with the fact that over half the states are doing proportional delegates this year NH is just a blip. I mean they have 12 delegates. Even if Romney get 40% of the vote it isn't like he is going to run away with it.

To me the contests really start in South Carolina. SC has a bunch of delegates up for grabs and the contest is far enough after NH that the candidates have time to get into the state and campaign. Plus with contests already in the books, some of the pretenders (Huntsman, Bachmann, Perry) will be seperated out.
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