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boilergrad01 Jan 7 2012, 10:12 AM Post #1
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Us Saves Iranian Fisherman

"Iran will not repeat its warning ... the enemy's carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill," Salehi said on Tuesday, according to a Reuters report. "I advise, recommend and warn them over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once."


After Iran made that statement the same carrier group went and saved Iranian fisherman.
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IUCOLTFAN Jan 7 2012, 11:15 AM Post #2
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
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That happened like a week ago man.

Iran even hinting at threatening us is a joke. Our Navy could flatten Irans fleet alone.... not to add in our #1 Air Force and a nasty Marine force. Seriously, we brushed that comments off of our shoulder like an annoying flea. Their missiles have like 200 miles range... ours we can shoot from the states and land it precisely between the eyes of someone in Iran with a controller.

Fuck Iran. Their making our oil prices fly up right now (which prob. will continue for a bit). We're fucking their gov. up with that action Obama initiated on NYE, but honestly it's hurting us just as much.
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
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Us Saves Iranian Fisherman

"Iran will not repeat its warning ... the enemy's carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill," Salehi said on Tuesday, according to a Reuters report. "I advise, recommend and warn them over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once."


After Iran made that statement the same carrier group went and saved Iranian fisherman.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/07/world/meast/iran-us-navy-rescue/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Bobobinc Jan 7 2012, 06:56 PM Post #6
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Iran's hard-line Fars news agency had a different take, calling the rescue operation a Hollywood dramatization of a routine event.

The Fars report noted that attacks by Somali pirates in the region are common and said that Iran's navy has itself freed many mariners held by pirates in recent years without seeking to highly publicize it.

"Basically, rescuing trading and fishing boats from the hands of pirates in the Arabian Sea and the Gulf of Aden is considered a completely normal issue," Fars said. "A U.S. helicopter filming the rescue operation from the first minute makes it look like a Hollywood drama with specific locations and actors. It shows the Americans tried to publicize it through the media and present the American warship as a savior."

The semiofficial Fars news agency is considered close to Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard military force.
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Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

Last time I checked the Persian Gulf is smack dab in the middle of the largest concentration of crude oil on the planet........and is in international waters.

I don't agree with some of our Mideastern policies, but to have no presence in the area is bad economic and foreign policy.

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Given that you are cruising your yacht over in that part of the world, who would you rather be picked up by, Somali pirates or the Iranian navy? You would probably be equally screwed either way.
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Given that you are cruising your yacht over in that part of the world, who would you rather be picked up by, Somali pirates or the Iranian navy? You would probably be equally screwed either way.
When was it a given that you would be 'cruising your yacht' in that part of the world?
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Given that you are cruising your yacht over in that part of the world, who would you rather be picked up by, Somali pirates or the Iranian navy? You would probably be equally screwed either way.
When was it a given that you would be 'cruising your yacht' in that part of the world?
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Bobo - I agree that we need a presence in the area but having an entire carrier group parked in Irans backyard with everything that is currently going on politically may be intimidating enough to provoke something out of Iran.......seems to me we may be setting up a confrontation so we will have an easier time justifying another war to the world. I'm pretty sure Iran is quite sure how powerful our military is, do we really need to be flaunting it in any sort of antagonizing manner that may provoke something? We can strike them from anywhere if needed and I'm quite sure thay know that.

It's not really that hard to see how we may come off as bullies in certain parts of the world.
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Given that you are cruising your yacht over in that part of the world, who would you rather be picked up by, Somali pirates or the Iranian navy? You would probably be equally screwed either way.
When was it a given that you would be 'cruising your yacht' in that part of the world?
Ummmm... feel free to substitute "if" or "assuming" or your world of choice here. When setting up a hypothetical situation, all of these words work equally well.
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Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
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Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
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Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
So you are in favor of starting yet another war?
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:facepalm:

Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
So you are in favor of starting yet another war?
I think that we should do what it takes to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Preferably that can be achieved by other means, e.g. covert operations, computer viruses, etc.
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