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eelbor Jan 11 2012, 09:08 AM Post #31
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Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
So you are in favor of starting yet another war?
I think that we should do what it takes to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Preferably that can be achieved by other means, e.g. covert operations, computer viruses, etc.
do what it takes


Seems to me that as long as our government tells us that dropping bombs is what needs to be done then Lars is fine with it
If necessary, a few of those bunker busters built for Iraq should do the trick. Hopefully the CIA can get 'er done with covert ops.
It seems Mossad has heard your wish Lars. A couple of motorcycles, and a car bomb attached with magnets in traffic, poof.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/asia/iran-scientist-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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HoosierLars Jan 11 2012, 10:21 AM Post #32
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:facepalm:

Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
So you are in favor of starting yet another war?
I think that we should do what it takes to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Preferably that can be achieved by other means, e.g. covert operations, computer viruses, etc.
do what it takes


Seems to me that as long as our government tells us that dropping bombs is what needs to be done then Lars is fine with it
If necessary, a few of those bunker busters built for Iraq should do the trick. Hopefully the CIA can get 'er done with covert ops.
It seems Mossad has heard your wish Lars. A couple of motorcycles, and a car bomb attached with magnets in traffic, poof.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/asia/iran-scientist-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Thanks for posting. I just read that story on the net too.
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:facepalm:

Lars, do you believe that the U.S. forces currently and publicly performing missle testing and deploying a huge showing of nave force is in any way antagonizing the Iranians or trying to provoke anything that could be looked at as some exaggerated threat on their part? If for some reason Russia and China teamed up and decided to do missle testing in the International waters just outside of the Gulf of Mexico, do you think our government/military would have something to say about it. We'd probably mobilize a fleet or two just in case something did happen, right?

If we had/have evidence that Iran is an eminent threat than a few surgical strikes would do the trick, why the huge show of naval force? Maybe to provoke something to justify the strike or "seal the deal" so to speak?
Yes, I would think our actions might antagonize the Iranians. No disagreement from me. And it's possible that our intent is to start a war with them.
So you are in favor of starting yet another war?
I think that we should do what it takes to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Preferably that can be achieved by other means, e.g. covert operations, computer viruses, etc.
do what it takes


Seems to me that as long as our government tells us that dropping bombs is what needs to be done then Lars is fine with it
If necessary, a few of those bunker busters built for Iraq should do the trick. Hopefully the CIA can get 'er done with covert ops.
It seems Mossad has heard your wish Lars. A couple of motorcycles, and a car bomb attached with magnets in traffic, poof.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/asia/iran-scientist-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Thanks for posting. I just read that story on the net too.
Of course the morning media shows laugh off the idea that the US or Israel have anything to do with this.....what the fuck ever. The media spin is already starting.....sound the trumpets, we will be shooting missiles into Iran by early fall right before the elections. Obama is gonna save us from the "bad guys" again.

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Of course the morning media shows laugh off the idea that the US or Israel have anything to do with this.....what the fuck ever. The media spin is already starting.....sound the trumpets, we will be shooting missiles into Iran by early fall right before the elections. Obama is gonna save us from the "bad guys" again.

That would be ironic if the darling of the left gets us into yet another war. Come late summer, he might be desperate enough to do it.
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If he gets us involved in another war, I assume you would vote for him.
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Of course the morning media shows laugh off the idea that the US or Israel have anything to do with this.....what the fuck ever. The media spin is already starting.....sound the trumpets, we will be shooting missiles into Iran by early fall right before the elections. Obama is gonna save us from the "bad guys" again.

That would be ironic if the darling of the left gets us into yet another war. Come late summer, he might be desperate enough to do it.
It's all falling into place nicely......wars unite countries behind their flags....just ask Mr Bush
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Of course the morning media shows laugh off the idea that the US or Israel have anything to do with this.....what the fuck ever. The media spin is already starting.....sound the trumpets, we will be shooting missiles into Iran by early fall right before the elections. Obama is gonna save us from the "bad guys" again.

That would be ironic if the darling of the left gets us into yet another war. Come late summer, he might be desperate enough to do it.
It's all falling into place nicely......wars unite countries behind their flags....just ask Mr Bush
The left is always anti-war, and so are Ron Paul's supporters. So it could backfire.
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Iranian water-skiing team approaches US navy:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1389596250001/iranian-boats-approach-uss-new-orleans
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
this.
NOT this.

You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that. So, us being the world police is probably the smartest thing we could do in order to protect our well being. Oh, and btw, for those of you who are so anti USA policies and Pro Iran policies, Im sure Iran would be more than happy to open their doors to you and accept you with open arms if you ever wanted to have a change of residence.
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and for what it's worth... dont be surprised if Israel and the US get into a conflict within the next three months. Our training operations got postponed in Israel for political reasons but chances are, we'll be boots on the ground within the next three months. I'd be very surprised if we weren't.
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
this.
NOT this.

You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that. So, us being the world police is probably the smartest thing we could do in order to protect our well being. Oh, and btw, for those of you who are so anti USA policies and Pro Iran policies, Im sure Iran would be more than happy to open their doors to you and accept you with open arms if you ever wanted to have a change of residence.
how does that protect our well-being?


You are many posts behind on the war prediction. Conveniently, Irans 'threats' appear to be escalating during an election year.
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You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that.
There's a big difference between breaking open the Straight of Hormuz versus justifying another war by the risk that it might be closed. The history of the UK and the US with Iran contains well over 100 years of battling corporations for oil profits. If you haven't taken the time to read some of the history, I suggest you do so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company
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You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that.
There's a big difference between breaking open the Straight of Hormuz versus justifying another war by the risk that it might be closed. The history of the UK and the US with Iran contains well over 100 years of battling corporations for oil profits. If you haven't taken the time to read some of the history, I suggest you do so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company
What are you proposing the United States does for oil?
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
this.
NOT this.

You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that. So, us being the world police is probably the smartest thing we could do in order to protect our well being. Oh, and btw, for those of you who are so anti USA policies and Pro Iran policies, Im sure Iran would be more than happy to open their doors to you and accept you with open arms if you ever wanted to have a change of residence.
how does that protect our well-being?


You are many posts behind on the war prediction. Conveniently, Irans 'threats' appear to be escalating during an election year.
You're right, it is during an election year. The last thing this country wants is a new conflict. This threat isn't just perceived by our country but by the European countries as well. In the last few months Iran has already been caught red handed in trying to carry our an assassination of a diplomat on US soil. Iran has stated repeatedly its desire to wipe Israel off the map and has even threatened Europe as well. Russia and China back Iran because they hold some similar values with them and are using them as a puppet to carry out their dirty work.
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Would we issue veiled threats to Iran if they had a carrier group parked in the Gulf of Mexico?

Pretty awesome that we get to spend money being the International Water Police. Last I checked that area where our carrier group is at is nowhere near the U.S.

You are more prone to confront the bully if he is standing on your porch where he is an actual threat to your home and family than you are if he is across town sitting on his own couch minding his own business.
this.
NOT this.

You have a country threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. That happens and the world would suffer if we LET them do that. So, us being the world police is probably the smartest thing we could do in order to protect our well being. Oh, and btw, for those of you who are so anti USA policies and Pro Iran policies, Im sure Iran would be more than happy to open their doors to you and accept you with open arms if you ever wanted to have a change of residence.
how does that protect our well-being?


You are many posts behind on the war prediction. Conveniently, Irans 'threats' appear to be escalating during an election year.
You're right, it is during an election year. The last thing this country wants is a new conflict. This threat isn't just perceived by our country but by the European countries as well. In the last few months Iran has already been caught red handed in trying to carry our an assassination of a diplomat on US soil. Iran has stated repeatedly its desire to wipe Israel off the map and has even threatened Europe as well. Russia and China back Iran because they hold some similar values with them and are using them as a puppet to carry out their dirty work.
LOL......OK.
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