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brumdog44 Jan 17 2012, 11:05 PM Post #1
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http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-gop-convention-spoiler-225600747.html
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A few things here
#1. I would like to see the exact quote from Jesse Benton because I guarantee you he did not say it in such a way as to assume they plan on losing.
#2. Pretty much every candidate that is strong enough to stay in until the end plays this game with the delegates. That is how the game works. They use their influence with their delegates to get what they want. Oftentimes that means a place in the cabinet or a leadership position in the party or congress if their party wins -see Hillary Clinton - the only difference is that Paul is hoping to address his issues not secure a spot for himself.
#3 This guy that wrote the article is kind of skewing things when he says Paul is going to "skip" the big primaries and focus on the caucus states. As of now, the only primary that Paul is "skipping" is the Florida primary. And he actually does have an ad buy in Florida, and does plan on making appearances there. He just isn't going to spend a lot of time and resources in a state where it the vast majority of the GOP electorate is a bunch of retired Jewish people (in other words people who would not vote for Paul)
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Also I know that the Iowa non-binding delegates thing was mentioned by BG. Well I saw an article where Paul's campaign instructed their people to stay at the caucus site after the vote and get elected as delegates. The campaign would not say how many of their people were elected as delegates but they did say they were happy with what they had - meaning that if it comes down to a convention fight Paul could have more delegates than what he currently has on paper.
I imagine it is a strategy they will employee again.
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Also I know that the Iowa non-binding delegates thing was mentioned by BG. Well I saw an article where Paul's campaign instructed their people to stay at the caucus site after the vote and get elected as delegates. The campaign would not say how many of their people were elected as delegates but they did say they were happy with what they had - meaning that if it comes down to a convention fight Paul could have more delegates than what he currently has on paper.
I imagine it is a strategy they will employee again.
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brumdog44 Jan 18 2012, 12:15 AM Post #5
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A few things here
#1. I would like to see the exact quote from Jesse Benton because I guarantee you he did not say it in such a way as to assume they plan on losing.
#2. Pretty much every candidate that is strong enough to stay in until the end plays this game with the delegates. That is how the game works. They use their influence with their delegates to get what they want. Oftentimes that means a place in the cabinet or a leadership position in the party or congress if their party wins -see Hillary Clinton - the only difference is that Paul is hoping to address his issues not secure a spot for himself.
#3 This guy that wrote the article is kind of skewing things when he says Paul is going to "skip" the big primaries and focus on the caucus states. As of now, the only primary that Paul is "skipping" is the Florida primary. And he actually does have an ad buy in Florida, and does plan on making appearances there. He just isn't going to spend a lot of time and resources in a state where it the vast majority of the GOP electorate is a bunch of retired Jewish people (in other words people who would not vote for Paul)
hog -- I think #2 is what differentiates what Paul is doing from what other candidates have done in the past. It's an important difference.
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The underlying problem I have with Paul is this: His presence in the race only helps Obama win another term. If Mitt Romney wins the nomination as most people expect, Paul plans to divide the GOP convention at a time when every needs to be uniting behind their candidate. If Paul makes a third party run, he will divide the Republican vote and Obama wins another term. And, unless Paul endorses the eventual candidate, his followers are unlikely to remain safely in the Republican column.

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Is there an antidote for the Paul Koolaid?
"*mumbling* abolish the Federal Reserve *mumbling* return to sound money *mumbling* zero percent income tax *mumbling* let Iran have nukes ...."
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hog -- I think #2 is what differentiates what Paul is doing from what other candidates have done in the past. It's an important difference.
It is an important difference. And to me it is a positive difference. I think it say a lot about what kind of person that he is that he isn't planning on using his delegates to grasp for power for himself or his son.
He is doing to further causes he strongly believes in.
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hog -- I think #2 is what differentiates what Paul is doing from what other candidates have done in the past. It's an important difference.
It is an important difference. And to me it is a positive difference. I think it say a lot about what kind of person that he is that he isn't planning on using his delegates to grasp for power for himself or his son.
He is doing to further causes he strongly believes in.
I agree....to a point. In this case I agree because I believe auditing the fed is a good cause. But if the cause was one that I didn't believe in, I can't say that I would be in favor or it.

Let's say, for instance, that a candidate was completely against a bill for campaign finance reform held up his delegates in exchange for the party's removal of support for that bill (obviously this is a hypothetical). Would you be that much in support of a candidate who held on to values if you thought what they were 'holding hostage' was a belief you didn't share?
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