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| obatskii | Apr 13 2012, 04:11 PM Post #16 |
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Agreed; pretty sure some PR department told him he way want to rethink his stance. As many poor Americans as there are today, acting as if you're not compensated well enough while being a multi-millionaire is about the quickest way to fall from America's good graces. Edited by obatskii, Apr 13 2012, 04:11 PM.
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 02:43 AM Post #17 |
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You are a complete idiot. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| realtivelynew | Apr 14 2012, 03:42 AM Post #18 |
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why would you say that? He is right on target |
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 07:06 AM Post #19 |
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Why should the Olympics be a volunteer situation? Pretty sure the swimmers and track athletes don't treat it as such. I guess I just don't get why their stature and popularity should be able to be used by the Olympics and all of their sponsors to make a crap load of money and the NBA guys shouldn't want a little compensation. Yeah, those guys are filthy rich but they also pay their taxes so it's not like they are cheating the system in any way. Bringing up the fact that Wade plays in a income-tax free state is just stupid. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| dreachon | Apr 14 2012, 07:16 AM Post #20 |
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I'ts very easy. If they want to go and represent their country then they should go. If they don't want to, then don't. But to want to go only if you get paid is lame. Comparing swimmers and track athletes isn't same and isn't a fair comparison. I'm not aware of any other athletes receiving a salary for participating in the Olympics. Maybe I'm wrong on that. |
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 07:29 AM Post #21 |
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I don't think that Wade is saying "pay me or I'm not playing". I think it's a similar situation as the NCAA. Certain players make a lot of people a lot of money, and they aren't always compensated accordingly. I don't think this is a basketball only problem either, there are a lot of events in the Olympics where the athletes get their likeness used to make millions and they don't get compensated for it. I'd rather give those people (you know, the ones that earned it) the money. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| dreachon | Apr 14 2012, 07:43 AM Post #22 |
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Really? I'm trying to think of where Michael Phelps's likeness is being used without him receiving compensation. The NCAA uses college likenesses is video games, commercials, and jersey sales. I'm not sure there are any Olympic video games. Commercials are usually showing clips of either past Olympics or clips from the current season (like Lebron dunking as part of the heat). Jersey sales probably bring in some dough, but not enough to be a significant source of income for the players once all the other cuts are taken. Am I missing anything? Meanwhile these guys travel across the world on the country's dime, stay in nice hotels with good security and have all meals compensated. That has to account for something, doesn't it? Edited by dreachon, Apr 14 2012, 07:45 AM.
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 07:54 AM Post #23 |
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Well, there is the multi-billion dollar TV deal. Involved in that, is almost exclusive use of the athletes' performances. And if Wade posterizes someone, you better believe that'll be popping up in Olympic ads for years. I don't feel for Wade at all, he's stupid filthy rich. But he's just voicing a concern, and a concern that could benefit people that aren't as rich like him. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 07:56 AM Post #24 |
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And Olympic participation is absolutely not on the country's dime. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| realtivelynew | Apr 14 2012, 08:13 AM Post #25 |
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Shut your mouth or DONT PLAY. Its as simple as that. With unemployment and the struggles of the American people are going through, the LAST thing anyone wants to hear is a millionaire athlete wanting paid to represent their country in the Olympics. I am not sure if you are just trying to be difficult in this argument, since a lot of times that is your MO, but i am guessing since Wade has said his statement was "taken out of context" that the backlash of the American people was tremendous. And comparing the basketball players to other Olympic athletes is flat out hilarious. Edited by realtivelynew, Apr 14 2012, 08:16 AM.
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| dreachon | Apr 14 2012, 08:22 AM Post #26 |
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You are right and I wasn't aware of that. Don't think it changes the fact that these guys still don't pay for anything to participate. |
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| realtivelynew | Apr 14 2012, 08:26 AM Post #27 |
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They dont stay in the Olympic Village like the other commoners. And poor Ray Allen. He complain s that you only get 3 weeks off. WELL WELCOME TO MY FUCKING WORLD. And just so you know, they DO receive extra money from their shoe contracts for p-laying in the Olympics. I am sure its not the 20 million they receive from their normal NBA contracts. How are they going to make it? here is a nice quote from a Spoting News article. "Nick Symmonds is America’s big middle-distance running hope for London. His daily workouts would make an NBA player puke. To help make ends meet while training, he’s sold advertising space on his body. Symmonds said he’d tattoo a Twitter name on his shoulder during races. He put the offer on eBay. A marketing company in Milwaukee is paying him $11,000 for the exposure. Wade makes that much every 2.7 minutes he plays for the Heat. Most of the Team USA lineup is set. Assuming Tyson Chandler and LaMarcus Aldridge make the roster, the 12 players will combine to make $168.3 million this year." "The 2004 team stayed on the Queen Elizabeth II. Among the other guests were George H.W. Bush and Tony Blair. Wouldn’t you have loved to hear the dinner conversation between the prime minister and Allen Iverson? Perhaps A.I. took the occasion to explain NBA philosophy when it comes to the Olympics. “(Players) are commodities,” said Allen. “You think about it. You do camps in the summer, you have various opportunities to make money. When you go overseas and play basketball, you lost those opportunities.” And what do you gain? At best, a gold medal and the USOC bonus that goes with it. There’s also that stuff about winning one for your country. But just as soccer players aim for the World Cup, the Olympics have never been basketball’s pinnacle. NBA players gear for the NBA title. After that, some would prefer to lay back, pick up appearance fees at camps and enjoy the spoils of their effort. Hey, they’ve earned it. I rather enjoyed reading about Wade’s 30th birthday party in January. The car dealership he endorses gave him a $230,000 McLaren MP4-12C sports car. It goes from zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds. He got a diamond-encrusted watch. One of his cakes was five feet high and decorated with Swarovski crystal monograms. It was washed down with bottles of Dom Perignon. That’s all well and good. But the complaints ring hollow when his mouth goes for zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds discussing financial inequity. It should be noted that Wade and Allen weren’t speaking for USA Basketball. Even LeBron James had the P.R. sense to say it does not matter if he’s paid for wearing the red, white and blue. The backlash won’t be Guillen-like, but Wade already has tried to walk back his comments. Buy it if you want. I think he said what he really believes the first time. The players are commodities, not commode cleaners. So let the Olympians eat cake. He’s only interested if it’s covered in Swarovski crystal." Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-04-12/dwyane-wade-olympics-pay-ray-allen-basketball-players-not-only-ones-who-deserve#ixzz1s1LSCc4Y |
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 08:42 AM Post #28 |
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I just don't understand why they should be expected to do their jobs for free. Yes, they are wildly overpaid for playing a game, but when they play that game in the Olympics, there are a lot of people lining their pockets w money because of their successes. And I don't think this is just an NBA player issue, I think a lot of Olympic athletes deserve more than they're getting. The Olympics are big business, and you have a lot of athletes struggling. Why shouldn't the athletes get a part of that big money? |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| realtivelynew | Apr 14 2012, 08:51 AM Post #29 |
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Maybe the Peace Corp next should be paid more. Its ridiculous these people dont get paid more for doing something for their country. $135 a month to live in China? I am guess Wade wont take on that battle will he? And as stated, they get to stay in a 5 star hotel and eat 5 star dining. Roughing it for sure. |
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| dçamden03 | Apr 14 2012, 09:02 AM Post #30 |
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Nobody has said they're roughing it. Just that they should get what they deserve. Why should the IOC, USOC, NBC, and it's sponsors all get rich on the Olympics, but the athletes (not just the basketball players) get very little of that money? And who do you think pays for those 5 star hotels? |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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