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Topic Started: Apr 11 2012, 01:36 PM (8,527 Views)
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LOL....a document created by the state as a part of building their case....geez dreach, I'm assuming you read the entire document, and are well aware of how slanted it is right? I mean, let's start with the simple misrepresentation of the facts when the document says that TM was told to wait for police...not true, the operator asked him if he wanted to wait there. It's also worth noting that this report omits all reports of Zimmerman's injuries, and the fact that he was getting his head bashed in. Of course it's slanted. Just pointing it out that. Also doesn't mean it's wrong.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating? So there's not multiple witness reports that back up Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him and started beating him. Got it.
I believe following Martin in a car and then getting out and chasing him is enough for Martin to defend himself and beat up Zimmerman.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
So there's not multiple witness reports that back up Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him and started beating him. Got it. I believe following Martin in a car and then getting out and chasing him is enough for Martin to defend himself and beat up Zimmerman. really? So you believe fatal violence was necessary from Martin? He couldn't have gotten away?
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
So the broken nose, bashed head, and cries for help are not evidence?
Not that Martin confronted Zimmerman and then kicked his ass. No.
If I am following you and not showing or saying that I have a gun then you would be more inclined to confront me and have a confrontation. But if I have a gun in my hand or tell you I have one you would be less likely to walk up to me and punch me in the face, right? Common sense should tell you that the gun was never an issue until GZ was getting his ass pummeled. What does that have to do with anything? You said that from everything you've read, Martin confronted Zimmerman. What have you read besides Zimmerman's account of the story? Because you apparently haven't read anything from Trayvon Martin's girlfriend.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
So the broken nose, bashed head, and cries for help are not evidence?
Not that Martin confronted Zimmerman and then kicked his ass. No.
If I am following you and not showing or saying that I have a gun then you would be more inclined to confront me and have a confrontation. But if I have a gun in my hand or tell you I have one you would be less likely to walk up to me and punch me in the face, right? Common sense should tell you that the gun was never an issue until GZ was getting his ass pummeled.
What does that have to do with anything? You said that from everything you've read, Martin confronted Zimmerman. What have you read besides Zimmerman's account of the story? Because you apparently haven't read anything from Trayvon Martin's girlfriend. I don't believe Trayvon Martin's girlfriend.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
So there's not multiple witness reports that back up Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him and started beating him. Got it. I believe following Martin in a car and then getting out and chasing him is enough for Martin to defend himself and beat up Zimmerman.
really? So you believe fatal violence was necessary from Martin? He couldn't have gotten away? You have no idea how that confrontation started. If a man follows you in a car, proceeds to get out of the car and chase you, and has a gun on him, then Martin is the one whose life was in danger. Not Zimmerman. And that gives Martin the right to defend himself.
Let's not get into the "fatal violence" discussion. We're never going to agree on that. I don't think Zimmerman's injuries were life threatening in any way. You think they were significant enough for Zimmerman to shoot Martin. Let's just leave it at that.
As for Martin being able to get away, I'll assume if we were just talking about Zimmerman chasing Martin then yes, he could have gotten away. But is it as simple as that? It's a gated community. Zimmerman could have cut Martin off. Martin could have hid and Zimmerman could have found him. Martin could have thought he lost Zimmerman, and gone back to continue his way home. Meanwhile, Zimmerman could have continued searching for Martin and maybe they just bumped into each other again. There are really a lot of possibilities as to how the confrontation got started which brings me back to point #1. You have no idea how the confrontation got started.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
So the broken nose, bashed head, and cries for help are not evidence?
Not that Martin confronted Zimmerman and then kicked his ass. No.
If I am following you and not showing or saying that I have a gun then you would be more inclined to confront me and have a confrontation. But if I have a gun in my hand or tell you I have one you would be less likely to walk up to me and punch me in the face, right? Common sense should tell you that the gun was never an issue until GZ was getting his ass pummeled.
What does that have to do with anything? You said that from everything you've read, Martin confronted Zimmerman. What have you read besides Zimmerman's account of the story? Because you apparently haven't read anything from Trayvon Martin's girlfriend.
I don't believe Trayvon Martin's girlfriend. So what? Her believability isn't the question here. The question is Colt saying everything he has read says Martin confronted Zimmerman. That means the only thing he has read is Zimmerman's side of the story.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating? When did this fatal beating happen, I missed that.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
So there's not multiple witness reports that back up Zimmerman's claim that Martin confronted him and started beating him. Got it. I believe following Martin in a car and then getting out and chasing him is enough for Martin to defend himself and beat up Zimmerman.
really? So you believe fatal violence was necessary from Martin? He couldn't have gotten away?
You have no idea how that confrontation started. If a man follows you in a car, proceeds to get out of the car and chase you, and has a gun on him, then Martin is the one whose life was in danger. Not Zimmerman. And that gives Martin the right to defend himself. Let's not get into the "fatal violence" discussion. We're never going to agree on that. I don't think Zimmerman's injuries were life threatening in any way. You think they were significant enough for Zimmerman to shoot Martin. Let's just leave it at that. As for Martin being able to get away, I'll assume if we were just talking about Zimmerman chasing Martin then yes, he could have gotten away. But is it as simple as that? It's a gated community. Zimmerman could have cut Martin off. Martin could have hid and Zimmerman could have found him. Martin could have thought he lost Zimmerman, and gone back to continue his way home. Meanwhile, Zimmerman could have continued searching for Martin and maybe they just bumped into each other again. There're really a lot of possibilities as to how the confrontation got started which brings me back to point #1. You have no idea how the confrontation got started. 1) you honestly think that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun and proceeded to physically assault him?
2) Well, maybe you should ask a doctor if someone can die from having their head slammed into a curb, instead of trusting your severely biased opinion.
3) Have you looked at the aerial photos of the neighborhood? Do that before you make any claim that Martin was somehow "trapped"....simply not true. He could have easily gotten away from Zimmerman in any kind of chase.
4) I believe it was only a matter of a minute or 2 that passed from the 911 call to the fatal shot....pretty hard to imagine a complex game of cat & mouse going on in the neighborhood prior to the physical altercation
5) Neither of us know how the confrontation started for sure, but all of the factors that you cite in forming your opinion seem to defy all forms of common sense.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
When did this fatal beating happen, I missed that. see that I specifically said "potentially fatal beating". troll on
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1) you honestly think that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun and proceeded to physically assault him?
2) Well, maybe you should ask a doctor if someone can die from having their head slammed into a curb, instead of trusting your severely biased opinion.
3) Have you looked at the aerial photos of the neighborhood? Do that before you make any claim that Martin was somehow "trapped"....simply not true. He could have easily gotten away from Zimmerman in any kind of chase.
4) I believe it was only a matter of a minute or 2 that passed from the 911 call to the fatal shot....pretty hard to imagine a complex game of cat & mouse going on in the neighborhood prior to the physical altercation
5) Neither of us know how the confrontation started for sure, but all of the factors that you cite in forming your opinion seem to defy all forms of common sense.
1) Personally, I think Zimmerman is the one that initiated the confrontation. Why would a person who ran for his life, come back and assault the person he was afraid of? 2) There you go sensationalizing the injuries. Now it's a curb he was getting slammed into? Question, could Zimmerman have received cuts to the back of his head if he was scuffling with Martin on concrete? Yes. Ok, well that could easily explain the two cuts and blood on the back of his head. 3) I have. That doesn't mean it was simply a straight line chase. Zimmerman says he lost sight of Martin. Martin could have simply stopped running. 4) Did I really outline some sort of complex game of cat and mouse? I don't think so. 5) True and false.
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1) you honestly think that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun and proceeded to physically assault him?
2) Well, maybe you should ask a doctor if someone can die from having their head slammed into a curb, instead of trusting your severely biased opinion.
3) Have you looked at the aerial photos of the neighborhood? Do that before you make any claim that Martin was somehow "trapped"....simply not true. He could have easily gotten away from Zimmerman in any kind of chase.
4) I believe it was only a matter of a minute or 2 that passed from the 911 call to the fatal shot....pretty hard to imagine a complex game of cat & mouse going on in the neighborhood prior to the physical altercation
5) Neither of us know how the confrontation started for sure, but all of the factors that you cite in forming your opinion seem to defy all forms of common sense.
1) Personally, I think Zimmerman is the one that initiated the confrontation. Why would a person who ran for his life, come back and assault the person he was afraid of? 2) There you go sensationalizing the injuries. Now it's a curb he was getting slammed into? Question, could Zimmerman have received cuts to the back of his head if he was scuffling with Martin on concrete? Yes. Ok, well that could easily explain the two cuts and blood on the back of his head. 3) I have. That doesn't mean it was simply a straight line chase. Zimmerman says he lost sight of Martin. Martin could have simply stopped running. 4) Did I really outline some sort of complex game of cat and mouse? I don't think so. 5) True and false. 1) You think Zimmerman initiated the physical part of the confrontation? Could you elaborate on your theory of the chain of events?
2) I'm not sensationalizing anything....have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever been on your back getting pummeled in a fight? Once the assailant gains that upper hand, you are completely at their mercy, and in the event that you see no end in sight, the situation can certainly be fatal (and absolutely feels that way).
3) If Martin stopped running and then Zimmerman caught back up to him, couldn't have have run again? Why would he stop running if he was deathly afraid to begin with? Why was violence his only alternative?
4) Yes
5) You are claiming that Zimmerman brandished his gun, which provoked Martin to attack him. This defies all logic and common sense.
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I said I didn't want to get into the Zimmerman injuries with you so I don't know why I'm doing it. If Martin was pummeling him and slamming his head into a curb (I still haven't seen this anywhere, please link) then I would expect Zimmerman to have significant injuries. Not only did Zimmerman not have a concussion, but he didn't even need stitches. 2 scrapes on the back of his head does not equal a life threatening situation.
I've already gone through multiple scenarios that don't involve Martin simply running from Zimmerman. It was raining out, maybe Martin slipped. Who the hell knows? Or maybe Martin decided to stand his ground. Why doesn't the law protect HIM?
I didn't say Zimmerman brandished a gun. I said Martin could have seen it. Was the gun behind Zimmerman's back? On the side of his waistband? It's just speculation on my part and a minor detail that I really don't think has an effect on the case one way or another.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
When did this fatal beating happen, I missed that.
see that I specifically said " potentially fatal beating". troll on FIne, you want to make this personal? Duly noted.
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From what I've read, GZ didnt assualt TM.....TM confronted GZ and proceeded to kick his ass....
So you've read Zimmerman's account of the story. Congratulations.
I think there are multiple witness accounts that back this up dreach.
Really? Multiple witness accounts that saw Martin confront Zimmerman, start a fight and then get shot? Please link.
the witnesses saw that Martin was kicking Zimmerman's ass. Who started the confrontation wasn't witnessed, but what is it that you BELIEVE Zimmerman could have done to provoke a potentially fatal beating?
When did this fatal beating happen, I missed that.
see that I specifically said " potentially fatal beating". troll on
FIne, you want to make this personal? Duly noted. Why else would you take the word "potentially" out of the context of my comment to argue with me other than trolling?
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