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Jazen May 21 2013, 09:56 AM Post #736
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If it's in Florida and California, the O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony trials have already established that murder is legal....so it doesn't matter if he is guilty or not, he walks.
I watched both trials in their entirety. The O.J. trial took place on the heels of the Rodney King debacle in 1992, which as we all know, inspired the L.A. riots when 4 white cops were acquitted after nearly beating King to death. As much as Johnny Cochran tried to deny the race card while defending O.J., it was exactly that. The black community was seething.

And I didn't blame them.

However, there was so much evidence against Simpson I was totally stunned when he didn't take a plea.

His blood at the crime scene (cut his left middle finger during the attack, blood trail leading back to his house)
Bloody shoe prints leading away from the scene ($300 Bruno Magli's -- Simpson's shoe size)
Drops of Simpson's blood on the left side of the shoe prints leading away from the murders
Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman's blood in his vehicle and on his socks in his washing machine
Bloody glove with his, Nicole's, and Goldman's blood at his residence
Fleeing law enforcement after being indicted, and threatening suicide (the white Bronco chase)

That said, 9 of the 12 jury members were African American. They simply flipped the bird at the justice system, nonchalantly claiming their verdict was reached due to a bungled investigation -- and here we are today.

Chris Rock said it best at the time: "Black people happy, white people mad"

In terms of the Casey Anthony case, the jury was just dumber than a box or rocks.
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I'm definitely rooting for a 17 year old child that was gunned down by an idiot that was carrying a loaded gun in a residential neighborhood. I just don't get how simply walking down the sidewalk can be construed as "suspicious" -- and those are Zimmerman's words, not mine.

He's charged with second degree murder, which I think he'll get. Guess I should reserve my child murderer comment for when it happens. And it will.



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I'm definitely rooting for a 17 year old child that was gunned down by an idiot that was carrying a loaded gun in a residential neighborhood. I just don't get how simply walking down the sidewalk can be construed as "suspicious" -- and those are Zimmerman's words, not mine.

He's charged with second degree murder, which I think he'll get. Guess I should reserve my child murderer comment for when it happens. And it will.



just bc you're older now doesn't make a 17 yr old a child
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I'm definitely rooting for a 17 year old child that was gunned down by an idiot that was carrying a loaded gun in a residential neighborhood. I just don't get how simply walking down the sidewalk can be construed as "suspicious" -- and those are Zimmerman's words, not mine.

He's charged with second degree murder, which I think he'll get. Guess I should reserve my child murderer comment for when it happens. And it will.



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Wow, someone definitely has their mind made up on this one. Innocent until proven guilty? Crazy.
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
I'm curious. If George's version of the story is true, what do you feel he did wrong, and would you still think he will be convicted?
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I'm still trying to figure out who these terrorists are that colt claims we go out of our way to treat fairly.
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I'm definitely rooting for a 17 year old child that was gunned down by an idiot that was carrying a loaded gun in a residential neighborhood. I just don't get how simply walking down the sidewalk can be construed as "suspicious" -- and those are Zimmerman's words, not mine.

He's charged with second degree murder, which I think he'll get. Guess I should reserve my child murderer comment for when it happens. And it will.



just bc you're older now doesn't make a 17 yr old a child
Legally, it does.
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
I'm curious. If George's version of the story is true, what do you feel he did wrong, and would you still think he will be convicted?
It's hard to stand your ground while you are pursuing. Legally whether it will make a difference, I don't know, but IMO the moment he chose to surrender his rights to 'stand your ground' voluntarily. Just my opinion. I don't know if he will get convicted or not because if his story isn't true, the one guy to refute it isn't around to tell his side of the story.
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Wow, someone definitely has their mind made up on this one. Innocent until proven guilty? Crazy.
Yeah, you give the benefit of the doubt all of the time.
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
I'm curious. If George's version of the story is true, what do you feel he did wrong, and would you still think he will be convicted?
It's hard to stand your ground while you are pursuing. Legally whether it will make a difference, I don't know, but IMO the moment he chose to surrender his rights to 'stand your ground' voluntarily. Just my opinion. I don't know if he will get convicted or not because if his story isn't true, the one guy to refute it isn't around to tell his side of the story.
agreed, but remember...according to George he had given up "pursuit" and was walking back to his truck when he was attacked....so does SYG come back in?
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I'm definitely rooting for a 17 year old child that was gunned down by an idiot that was carrying a loaded gun in a residential neighborhood. I just don't get how simply walking down the sidewalk can be construed as "suspicious" -- and those are Zimmerman's words, not mine.

He's charged with second degree murder, which I think he'll get. Guess I should reserve my child murderer comment for when it happens. And it will.



just bc you're older now doesn't make a 17 yr old a child
Legally, it does.
ever heard of emancipation?? working as a teacher I would think you would at some point (not sure what grade you teach)... assuming your a high school teacher... further more explain to me how some minors are tried as adults.... I will accept minor or juvenile but in absolutely no way is a 17 year old a child look the word up maybe???


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http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Child

take your "legally" and go fuck yourself

...man I've been wanting to do that for awhile now...
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
I'm curious. If George's version of the story is true, what do you feel he did wrong, and would you still think he will be convicted?
Though I lack the analytical skill that you have, ill do my best to sum up why i put this squarely on Zimmerman. When the 911 operator told him they did not need him
To follow Martin, what happened from that point on Zimmerman is responsible for. Had he not pursued, he wouldnt have been in a situation where a fight would occur. I know this has been discussed to death. What I don't understand is, those defending Zimmerman say he was getting his ass kicked and by th stand your ground law, was justified in doing what he did. Doesn't the same apply to Martin? If he felt threatened by someone stalking him at night, didn't he have the right to defend himself?
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I realize it's wrong to "convict" before proven guilty, but there's something about this case that strikes me in a bitter way. To me, 17 year olds are barely cooked, not even close to being an adult. Others may see it differently, and that's fine, but that's my personal view.

That said, I've never felt so strongly about a case, and I've seen a lot of them, but then again I'm not even sure I've heard of the Stand Your Ground Law until this all happened.

I'm not going to go in circles and argue the evidence as we know it, but I still predict he gets convicted of second degree murder.
I'm curious. If George's version of the story is true, what do you feel he did wrong, and would you still think he will be convicted?
Though I lack the analytical skill that you have, ill do my best to sum up why i put this squarely on Zimmerman. When the 911 operator told him they did not need him
To follow Martin, what happened from that point on Zimmerman is responsible for. Had he not pursued, he wouldnt have been in a situation where a fight would occur. I know this has been discussed to death. What I don't understand is, those defending Zimmerman say he was getting his ass kicked and by th stand your ground law, was justified in doing what he did. Doesn't the same apply to Martin? If he felt threatened by someone stalking him at night, didn't he have the right to defend himself?
yes, I think that if Martin felt threatened, he had the 1st right to stand his ground under the law. If George's story is true, however, then he was walking back to his truck, not pursuing, and Martin came back after him and attacked...which would seem to make him the aggressor, thus giving GZ the stand your ground protection.
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