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| yawnzzz | Jul 1 2013, 11:08 AM Post #991 |
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776.013 is typically what's referred to as the 'Stand Your Ground' statute. It does not just cover home protection. It's the same statute you'll find across many states. |
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| dreachon | Jul 1 2013, 11:13 AM Post #992 |
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I mean I don't read every state's statutes so I'll take your word for it. I just know it says for "home protection" under .013 and under .012 it says for "defense of person". Just seems to me that this case falls under .012 more than .013. If .012 isn't officially a SYG law, so be it. |
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| HoosierLars | Jul 1 2013, 12:54 PM Post #993 |
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I agree with Colt on this one, and don't think GZ's actions should have led to TM kicking his ass. Over the weekend I heard that GZ led an effort to punish the police for beating a homeless black man, which led to the dismissal/resignation of someone. (sorry, didn't catch the details on the radio) |
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| dreachon | Jul 1 2013, 01:24 PM Post #994 |
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That's fine. I hope you at least understand my position now. |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Jul 1 2013, 01:33 PM Post #995 |
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Officer just testified that Zimmerman didn't appear to be angry or have "Ill will" towards Martin. After learning Martin was dead, Zimmerman very remorseful for having killed another person. Interesting bit of info....wonder how that plays with the jury. |
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| dreachon | Jul 1 2013, 01:45 PM Post #996 |
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Can't imagine it would play anything other than well, right? |
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| HoosierLars | Jul 1 2013, 02:03 PM Post #997 |
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Yep, thanks for taking the time to discuss it. |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Jul 1 2013, 06:37 PM Post #998 |
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When asked if he felt GZ was telling the truth, the lead investigator testified "yes" |
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| mongo | Jul 1 2013, 06:50 PM Post #999 |
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I mean it obviously helps even more in a case that appears to be going Zimmermans way. |
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| dut1101 | Jul 2 2013, 10:55 AM Post #1000 |
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Judge throws out lead detectives comments on credibility that zimmerman meant no ill will towards TM... judge says one witness can't speak on the credibility of another witness... hmm |
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| dreachon | Jul 2 2013, 02:22 PM Post #1001 |
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That fucker has been caught. headbang2 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351447/Shawn-Custis-Police-catch-home-invader-vicious-attack-mother-child-caught-nanny-cam.html Edited by dreachon, Jul 2 2013, 02:22 PM.
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| Mr Gray | Jul 2 2013, 02:36 PM Post #1002 |
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dreach, I was finally able to get in front of an actual computer (instead of my phone) to find your post(s) that lead me to my thinking and statement. Here you go. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8299064&t=7184833
http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8253122&t=7184833
http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8251830&t=7184833
So dreach, here is a summary of direct quotes from you that lead to the conclusion that I previous stated, which you deny. 1) You don't believe someone has a right to kill someone unless their own life is in imminent danger. 2) If GZ's story is true (that TM doubled back, began pummeling GZ and slamming his head into the ground), then GZ's right to defend himself is restored, however you aren't sure that he was ever in a situation where his life was in danger 1+2. So, if GZ's story is true and he was getting pummelled/head slammed into ground, but you still don't feel that he had a right to kill or that his life was in danger, I think I can safely stick to my original statement that you don't feel this type of beating (claimed by GZ) is life threatening. What were you saying earlier about "manning up"? Edited by Mr Gray, Jul 2 2013, 02:37 PM.
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| brumdog44 | Jul 2 2013, 03:11 PM Post #1003 |
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So the above is explained by your statement above HOW? Dreach didn't say a single damn thing about someone getting their head slammed into the ground. He said he wasn't certain that Zimmerman's life was ever in danger.....this is getting beyond pathetic. Edited by brumdog44, Jul 2 2013, 03:18 PM.
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| dreachon | Jul 2 2013, 03:12 PM Post #1004 |
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:facepalm: So you can't find any quotes from me saying getting your head bashed into the sidewalk is life threatening or that Zimmerman chased down Martin like a dog? Were you able to search all the "mysteriously deleted" posts on your desktop? Got it. And again, for the 1000th time, I don't believe Zimmerman was getting his head slammed into the ground. I have said this time and time and time again. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8251085&t=7184833 By saying "if ZImmerman's story is true", I'm obviously talking about his version of Martin doubling back and attacking him unprovoked. When I say, "I'm not sure he was ever in a situation where his life was in danger" it's because I don't believe him when he says his head was getting slammed into the ground. Hence the "I'm not sure". Here's another quote from me.
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And here - where I acknowledge that maybe Zimmerman really did feel like his life was in danger
I have been incredibly consistent throughout. I don't believe Zimmerman was sustaining so much punishment that he would have felt his life was in danger. COULD he have died from a punch? Yes.But that situation is so incredibly rare that no one thinks they are going to die from a punch. Getting into a fistfight is not a good enough reason to shoot and kill someone. Especially, as I believe, when you are the instigator of said fight. |
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| dreachon | Jul 2 2013, 03:15 PM Post #1005 |
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Don't you see Brum?!?! If I take parts of quotes from various posts and attempt to thread them together to reach an entirely different conclusion then my quote about what Dreach said is 100% accurate! |
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