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George Zimmerman ; Combined Threads
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HoosierLars Sep 10 2013, 01:50 PM Post #1216
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Link? I don't recall saying that, although hypothetically, one punch could be deadly.

If the attacker continues to punch, and takes someone to the ground, that's where I think serious injury is more likely.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Link? I don't recall saying that, although hypothetically, one punch could be deadly.

If the attacker continues to punch, and takes someone to the ground, that's where I think serious injury is more likely.
Was I wrong about that? Maybe it was someone else. My bad. Aaron answered, so maybe he it was him. At least he's consistent.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Link? I don't recall saying that, although hypothetically, one punch could be deadly.

If the attacker continues to punch, and takes someone to the ground, that's where I think serious injury is more likely.
Was I wrong about that? Maybe it was someone else. My bad. Aaron answered, so maybe he it was him. At least he's consistent.
It's amazing that this is the FIRST time I've ever been misquoted on this board. :P
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Link? I don't recall saying that, although hypothetically, one punch could be deadly.

If the attacker continues to punch, and takes someone to the ground, that's where I think serious injury is more likely.
Was I wrong about that? Maybe it was someone else. My bad. Aaron answered, so maybe he it was him. At least he's consistent.
one punch ABSOLUTELY can be deadly...I have linked several times to the soccer referee who was killed with one punch earlier this year. There was a guy in Fort Wayne who was killed with one punch at a bar a year or so ago also.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Link? I don't recall saying that, although hypothetically, one punch could be deadly.

If the attacker continues to punch, and takes someone to the ground, that's where I think serious injury is more likely.
Was I wrong about that? Maybe it was someone else. My bad. Aaron answered, so maybe he it was him. At least he's consistent.
one punch ABSOLUTELY can be deadly...I have linked several times to the soccer referee who was killed with one punch earlier this year. There was a guy in Fort Wayne who was killed with one punch at a bar a year or so ago also.
I haven't argued otherwise. It can be. However that is an incredibly rare occurrence.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
sounds like attempted murder.

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Imagine that - another 911 call:

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-altercation-911-call?hpt=hln10_2

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Police say Shellie Zimmerman called 911, saying her husband was holed up in his vehicle with a gun.

"He's in his car and he continually has his hand on his gun saying, 'Step closer and he's going to shoot us,'" she told the dispatcher.


Her father's face afterwards:

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GZ is lucky his x-father-in-law did NOT have a gun (his face looks as if he has been beaten to the point where he would be in fear of his life - he might have decided to defend himself). :sarcasm:

I don't understand why anyone keeps defending this idiot. Good grief!
There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Looks more like a snake/spider bite. That must have been one weak ass punch.
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That must have been one weak ass punch.
Good thing he has a gun.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
sounds like attempted murder.

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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Just curious Dreach, I believe it was you and bri who stated that Zimmermanns injuries weren't bad enough to warrant what he did, I believe you even said that they weren't bad enough for his life to be endangered. Is the father-in-laws injuries bad enough?
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Just curious Dreach, I believe it was you and bri who stated that Zimmermanns injuries weren't bad enough to warrant what he did, I believe you even said that they weren't bad enough for his life to be endangered. Is the father-in-laws injuries bad enough?
Of course not.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
sounds like attempted murder.

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it's a little off topic, but I've always had a problem with the fact that attempted murder carries such smaller punishment vs actual murder....I mean the act was identical, which IMO is where punishment should be derived, not from the result. Maybe I'm alone in that, but I don't want an attempted murderer walking my streets any more than a murderer.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Just curious Dreach, I believe it was you and bri who stated that Zimmermanns injuries weren't bad enough to warrant what he did, I believe you even said that they weren't bad enough for his life to be endangered. Is the father-in-laws injuries bad enough?
Of course not.
You have a very narrow definition of when lethal self defense is appropriate don't you dreach?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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There's a big difference between "defending" and wanting factual reporting. Divorces are often messy things, and I think it's wrong for the world to morbidly watch through a dysfunctional media.
Since you were one that said a punch could be deadly. If George did indeed punch the father in the face would the father have had the right to shoot him?
Just curious Dreach, I believe it was you and bri who stated that Zimmermanns injuries weren't bad enough to warrant what he did, I believe you even said that they weren't bad enough for his life to be endangered. Is the father-in-laws injuries bad enough?
Of course not.
You have a very narrow definition of when lethal self defense is appropriate don't you dreach?
Not really. When someone feels their life is imminently in danger. I've been punched. I didn't feel like my life was imminently in danger.
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http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/lake-mary-police-are-now-calling-into-question-several-statements-shellie-zimmerman-made-to-911

Haha....wow! This is Springer shit
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