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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
deflect, deflect, deflect

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This would be akin to me saying "George Zimmerman bought illegal weapons." Which of course I never even came close to doing.


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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
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Can you link to when Martin was convicted of a crime? I don't recall ever hearing that.

And I'm not ACCUSING Zimmerman. I asked the question. Because TO ME he seems crazy. He has money problems. He's acquiring weapons. He's recently divorce. His new girlfriend got him arrested. He got away with killing someone. Seriously, you can think the question is unfair. I get it. Because you don't view him the same way I do.
The reason you don't know about Martin's criminal history is that it was covered up pretty well by the media. Here you go. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/
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He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.


Still not making the connection....lot's of people can be considered "crazy"...we encounter them every day in our lives, and by watching the lives of celebrities or athletes. How does that, or money problems, or acquiring weapons, being recently divorced, or his girlfriend having him arrested lead to a theory that he may have stolen guns or he bought guns on the black market with scratched off serial numbers? None of your opinions of him above make a connection to your theory.
Ok excuse me if I have a problem with information coming from a site whose front page headline reads "Does Obama want to infect you with....." talking about the conversation in Washington about lifting the ban on gay men donating blood. Also internet sources that make wild claims about the integrity of an entire police department and quotes multiple sources but then never links to those sources aside from linking to other articles written by the same guy.

I want to read the original article or papers that confirm the major accusations that he is claiming and honestly I have no idea were to begin finding reports that were "released" due to the freedom of information act.

Also can we please quit acting like TM got caught with ounces of weed like he was a dealer. A 17 year old kid got caught with an empty baggy and a pipe that shouldn't surprise anyone anywhere EVER.

Who said they were surprised by it?
Noone said they were surprised by it but by the reaction here on this board to the bag and the screwdriver and then a empty bag with residue and a pipe is to call him a criminal. I'd say most of the teens I've meet have had stolen property at some point in time and have smoked pot. That doesn't make them criminals that makes them children that make dumb ass mistakes.

Also Lars what male teen who gets busted with something rolls on his friends? That's just not something you do unless it was a life and death situation and I doubt the stolen jewlery bag was a life and death situation
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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
You seem very willing to make excuses for TM.

No, I don't consider GZ to be a criminal. He's a troubled man, and it's hard to know how much of his personal problems were initiated by the horrible event that left a 17 year old kid dead.
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I guess I'm just not really a material person. If someone takes my stuff, I can replace it.

If someone mistakes what I'm doing as a criminal activity, starts a fight, and ends up shooting me, I can't get my life back.

And, yes, I've had someone break into my place, while I was on the other side of town, and my 5'3" wife was home alone. It's a bad feeling, but I'd never in my life feel that THAT situation would have been safer had we owned a gun. That's complete nonsense.

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Can you link to when Martin was convicted of a crime? I don't recall ever hearing that.

And I'm not ACCUSING Zimmerman. I asked the question. Because TO ME he seems crazy. He has money problems. He's acquiring weapons. He's recently divorce. His new girlfriend got him arrested. He got away with killing someone. Seriously, you can think the question is unfair. I get it. Because you don't view him the same way I do.
The reason you don't know about Martin's criminal history is that it was covered up pretty well by the media. Here you go. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/
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He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.


Still not making the connection....lot's of people can be considered "crazy"...we encounter them every day in our lives, and by watching the lives of celebrities or athletes. How does that, or money problems, or acquiring weapons, being recently divorced, or his girlfriend having him arrested lead to a theory that he may have stolen guns or he bought guns on the black market with scratched off serial numbers? None of your opinions of him above make a connection to your theory.
Ok excuse me if I have a problem with information coming from a site whose front page headline reads "Does Obama want to infect you with....." talking about the conversation in Washington about lifting the ban on gay men donating blood. Also internet sources that make wild claims about the integrity of an entire police department and quotes multiple sources but then never links to those sources aside from linking to other articles written by the same guy.

I want to read the original article or papers that confirm the major accusations that he is claiming and honestly I have no idea were to begin finding reports that were "released" due to the freedom of information act.

Also can we please quit acting like TM got caught with ounces of weed like he was a dealer. A 17 year old kid got caught with an empty baggy and a pipe that shouldn't surprise anyone anywhere EVER.

Who said they were surprised by it?
Noone said they were surprised by it but by the reaction here on this board to the bag and the screwdriver and then a empty bag with residue and a pipe is to call him a criminal. I'd say most of the teens I've meet have had stolen property at some point in time and have smoked pot. That doesn't make them criminals that makes them children that make dumb ass mistakes.

Also Lars what male teen who gets busted with something rolls on his friends? That's just not something you do unless it was a life and death situation and I doubt the stolen jewlery bag was a life and death situation
I've never had thieves or burglars for friends. I'm not quick to give a pass to a culture that thinks stealing is ok, and condemns snitching on those who do it.
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Can you link to when Martin was convicted of a crime? I don't recall ever hearing that.

And I'm not ACCUSING Zimmerman. I asked the question. Because TO ME he seems crazy. He has money problems. He's acquiring weapons. He's recently divorce. His new girlfriend got him arrested. He got away with killing someone. Seriously, you can think the question is unfair. I get it. Because you don't view him the same way I do.
The reason you don't know about Martin's criminal history is that it was covered up pretty well by the media. Here you go. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/
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He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.


Still not making the connection....lot's of people can be considered "crazy"...we encounter them every day in our lives, and by watching the lives of celebrities or athletes. How does that, or money problems, or acquiring weapons, being recently divorced, or his girlfriend having him arrested lead to a theory that he may have stolen guns or he bought guns on the black market with scratched off serial numbers? None of your opinions of him above make a connection to your theory.
Ok excuse me if I have a problem with information coming from a site whose front page headline reads "Does Obama want to infect you with....." talking about the conversation in Washington about lifting the ban on gay men donating blood. Also internet sources that make wild claims about the integrity of an entire police department and quotes multiple sources but then never links to those sources aside from linking to other articles written by the same guy.

I want to read the original article or papers that confirm the major accusations that he is claiming and honestly I have no idea were to begin finding reports that were "released" due to the freedom of information act.

Also can we please quit acting like TM got caught with ounces of weed like he was a dealer. A 17 year old kid got caught with an empty baggy and a pipe that shouldn't surprise anyone anywhere EVER.

Who said they were surprised by it?
Noone said they were surprised by it but by the reaction here on this board to the bag and the screwdriver and then a empty bag with residue and a pipe is to call him a criminal. I'd say most of the teens I've meet have had stolen property at some point in time and have smoked pot. That doesn't make them criminals that makes them children that make dumb ass mistakes.

Also Lars what male teen who gets busted with something rolls on his friends? That's just not something you do unless it was a life and death situation and I doubt the stolen jewlery bag was a life and death situation
I've never had thieves or burglars for friends. I'm not quick to give a pass to a culture that thinks stealing is ok, and condemns snitching on those who do it.
guess I just look at it differently. I knew plenty of kids in highschool that stole things on one occasion I even kept a ps1 and game collection at my home before I found out it was stolen. I also smoked pot back in those days. I would have never called myself a criminal though. Plus for all I know he could of had a friend hand him the bag or ask him to hold it for him til after class.

Whatever the circumstances I know that I'm not giving up names of my friends right or wrong as that may be in something as petty as stolen watches and rings. Up until the point that I could actually do jail time for one of them and from what I understood charges in this incident were never even filed. My friend would of had to answer to me, my brother, and probably a few of my cousins as well afterwards.

I will also say I have very little faith in our judicial system
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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
You seem very willing to make excuses for TM.

No, I don't consider GZ to be a criminal. He's a troubled man, and it's hard to know how much of his personal problems were initiated by the horrible event that left a 17 year old kid dead.
I'm not making excuses for him. I'm providing a plausible alternative. He very well may have stolen that jewelry.

I'm just fascinated that you guys have no problem labeling him a criminal and yet give GZ a free pass when he has been arrested several times, accused of domestic battery several times, has a restraining order against him and lied to a judge in court.

Talk about bass ackwards thinking.
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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
You seem very willing to make excuses for TM.

No, I don't consider GZ to be a criminal. He's a troubled man, and it's hard to know how much of his personal problems were initiated by the horrible event that left a 17 year old kid dead.
I'm not making excuses for him. I'm providing a plausible alternative. He very well may have stolen that jewelry.

I'm just fascinated that you guys have no problem labeling him a criminal and yet give GZ a free pass when he has been arrested several times, accused of domestic battery several times, has a restraining order against him and lied to a judge in court.

Talk about bass ackwards thinking.
agree. not sure why people are defending him at this point.

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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
You seem very willing to make excuses for TM.

No, I don't consider GZ to be a criminal. He's a troubled man, and it's hard to know how much of his personal problems were initiated by the horrible event that left a 17 year old kid dead.
I'm not making excuses for him. I'm providing a plausible alternative. He very well may have stolen that jewelry.

I'm just fascinated that you guys have no problem labeling him a criminal and yet give GZ a free pass when he has been arrested several times, accused of domestic battery several times, has a restraining order against him and lied to a judge in court.

Talk about bass ackwards thinking.
HaHa.... Ok...
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Can you link to when Martin was convicted of a crime? I don't recall ever hearing that.

And I'm not ACCUSING Zimmerman. I asked the question. Because TO ME he seems crazy. He has money problems. He's acquiring weapons. He's recently divorce. His new girlfriend got him arrested. He got away with killing someone. Seriously, you can think the question is unfair. I get it. Because you don't view him the same way I do.
The reason you don't know about Martin's criminal history is that it was covered up pretty well by the media. Here you go. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/
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He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.


Still not making the connection....lot's of people can be considered "crazy"...we encounter them every day in our lives, and by watching the lives of celebrities or athletes. How does that, or money problems, or acquiring weapons, being recently divorced, or his girlfriend having him arrested lead to a theory that he may have stolen guns or he bought guns on the black market with scratched off serial numbers? None of your opinions of him above make a connection to your theory.
Ok excuse me if I have a problem with information coming from a site whose front page headline reads "Does Obama want to infect you with....." talking about the conversation in Washington about lifting the ban on gay men donating blood. Also internet sources that make wild claims about the integrity of an entire police department and quotes multiple sources but then never links to those sources aside from linking to other articles written by the same guy.

I want to read the original article or papers that confirm the major accusations that he is claiming and honestly I have no idea were to begin finding reports that were "released" due to the freedom of information act.

Also can we please quit acting like TM got caught with ounces of weed like he was a dealer. A 17 year old kid got caught with an empty baggy and a pipe that shouldn't surprise anyone anywhere EVER.

Who said they were surprised by it?
Noone said they were surprised by it but by the reaction here on this board to the bag and the screwdriver and then a empty bag with residue and a pipe is to call him a criminal. I'd say most of the teens I've meet have had stolen property at some point in time and have smoked pot. That doesn't make them criminals that makes them children that make dumb ass mistakes.

Also Lars what male teen who gets busted with something rolls on his friends? That's just not something you do unless it was a life and death situation and I doubt the stolen jewlery bag was a life and death situation
I've never had thieves or burglars for friends. I'm not quick to give a pass to a culture that thinks stealing is ok, and condemns snitching on those who do it.
guess I just look at it differently. I knew plenty of kids in highschool that stole things on one occasion I even kept a ps1 and game collection at my home before I found out it was stolen. I also smoked pot back in those days. I would have never called myself a criminal though. Plus for all I know he could of had a friend hand him the bag or ask him to hold it for him til after class.

Whatever the circumstances I know that I'm not giving up names of my friends right or wrong as that may be in something as petty as stolen watches and rings. Up until the point that I could actually do jail time for one of them and from what I understood charges in this incident were never even filed. My friend would of had to answer to me, my brother, and probably a few of my cousins as well afterwards.

I will also say I have very little faith in our judicial system
Most kids make mistakes, and I was no different. But I was raised not to steal, and would have never accepted stolen goods from anybody.

According to TM's gf, he smoked weed twice a week. So we are pretty sure he wasn't left holding the bag.
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but GZ's innocent, right?

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Can you link to when Martin was convicted of a crime? I don't recall ever hearing that.

And I'm not ACCUSING Zimmerman. I asked the question. Because TO ME he seems crazy. He has money problems. He's acquiring weapons. He's recently divorce. His new girlfriend got him arrested. He got away with killing someone. Seriously, you can think the question is unfair. I get it. Because you don't view him the same way I do.
The reason you don't know about Martin's criminal history is that it was covered up pretty well by the media. Here you go. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/
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He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.


Still not making the connection....lot's of people can be considered "crazy"...we encounter them every day in our lives, and by watching the lives of celebrities or athletes. How does that, or money problems, or acquiring weapons, being recently divorced, or his girlfriend having him arrested lead to a theory that he may have stolen guns or he bought guns on the black market with scratched off serial numbers? None of your opinions of him above make a connection to your theory.
Ok excuse me if I have a problem with information coming from a site whose front page headline reads "Does Obama want to infect you with....." talking about the conversation in Washington about lifting the ban on gay men donating blood. Also internet sources that make wild claims about the integrity of an entire police department and quotes multiple sources but then never links to those sources aside from linking to other articles written by the same guy.

I want to read the original article or papers that confirm the major accusations that he is claiming and honestly I have no idea were to begin finding reports that were "released" due to the freedom of information act.

Also can we please quit acting like TM got caught with ounces of weed like he was a dealer. A 17 year old kid got caught with an empty baggy and a pipe that shouldn't surprise anyone anywhere EVER.

Who said they were surprised by it?
Noone said they were surprised by it but by the reaction here on this board to the bag and the screwdriver and then a empty bag with residue and a pipe is to call him a criminal. I'd say most of the teens I've meet have had stolen property at some point in time and have smoked pot. That doesn't make them criminals that makes them children that make dumb ass mistakes.

Also Lars what male teen who gets busted with something rolls on his friends? That's just not something you do unless it was a life and death situation and I doubt the stolen jewlery bag was a life and death situation
I've never had thieves or burglars for friends. I'm not quick to give a pass to a culture that thinks stealing is ok, and condemns snitching on those who do it.
guess I just look at it differently. I knew plenty of kids in highschool that stole things on one occasion I even kept a ps1 and game collection at my home before I found out it was stolen. I also smoked pot back in those days. I would have never called myself a criminal though. Plus for all I know he could of had a friend hand him the bag or ask him to hold it for him til after class.

Whatever the circumstances I know that I'm not giving up names of my friends right or wrong as that may be in something as petty as stolen watches and rings. Up until the point that I could actually do jail time for one of them and from what I understood charges in this incident were never even filed. My friend would of had to answer to me, my brother, and probably a few of my cousins as well afterwards.

I will also say I have very little faith in our judicial system
Most kids make mistakes, and I was no different. But I was raised not to steal, and would have never accepted stolen goods from anybody.

According to TM's gf, he smoked weed twice a week. So we are pretty sure he wasn't left holding the bag.
Ok I was also raised not to steal but at that age I wasn't making the choices I would make now. Also twice a week is what many would consider recreational use. I view marijuana in the same light as I do beer and smoking on the weekends I would equate to catching your teenage son/daughter drinking. Yes I would be pissed but I would never view my kid as a criminal if their only crime was drinking underage or smoking a joint twice a week.

That's what we have with TM a kid who smoked weed and posted shit he shouldn't have on facebook. Took a bag from a friend or robbed people himself but the fact remains charges were not filed in that instance.

So what we have here is one group sees a teen who made fucked up choices getting killed because a man got out of his vehicle with a loaded weapon and pursued him putting the teen in a situation that should never have happened and it ended up with the teen dead.

The other group sees a thug child who could have gotten away but chose instead to turn around and beat the hell out of an innocent man who was just trying to protect his neighborhood.

That is why this conversation always ends up with two people making the same points and accusing the other side of not listening. Both sides look at the situation and give the benefit of doubt to one side and not the other. I myself may not be black but I understand being 15-17 and making choices that today I would never make but at that age seemed like it was no big deal. If it was my child that was killed and I heard people using the word criminal when talking about him when he had never even been formally charged with a crime and the only thing anyone had to point to him being a criminal was a small bag of marijuana residue and a pipe it would drive me crazy.
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Screwdriver, BAG of jewelry....

What pieces of the GZ puzzle brought your mind to illegal guns?
Did you even READ the article? Martin says it wasn't his. Zimmerman says he didn't do it. You are being a total hypocrite.

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“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy
So what lead you to illegal guns?
TM said he got the jewelry from "friends" but failed to name any. So he was likely a thief and liar.
Or he didn't want to snitch.

By the way, you never commented on whether you consider George Zimmerman a criminal...
You seem very willing to make excuses for TM.

No, I don't consider GZ to be a criminal. He's a troubled man, and it's hard to know how much of his personal problems were initiated by the horrible event that left a 17 year old kid dead.
Just for reference, his resisting arrest with violence charge, first domestic battery charge, and restraining order were all prior to shooting Trayvon Martin.

If I could just get one logical explanation on why Zimmerman is not a criminal even though Martin is, I'd be satisfied. Just one.
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