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sirbrianwilson Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM Post #1411
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eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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sirbrianwilson Apr 2 2014, 09:08 AM Post #1413
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Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

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Mr Gray Apr 2 2014, 10:39 AM Post #1414
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eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon Apr 2 2014, 11:25 AM Post #1415
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Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
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Mr Gray Apr 2 2014, 11:50 AM Post #1416
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Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
well, you know how I feel about it regarding freedom. I think that as long as their agreement isn't infringing upon others rights and freedoms, then it is their business, not mine or my governments.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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boilergrad01 Apr 11 2014, 09:51 PM Post #1417
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Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
Mr Gray,

In your example the person mowing the lawn would be a business owner. Their is a huge difference between being a business owner and being an employee.
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Mr Gray Apr 13 2014, 05:46 PM Post #1418
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Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
Mr Gray,

In your example the person mowing the lawn would be a business owner. Their is a huge difference between being a business owner and being an employee.
That person doesn't have to be a business owner to mow my lawn. And besides, it is still a private compensation agreement either way. You can speak in technicalities all day, but show me how it is anyone's business if 2 parties agree on compensation for a job?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon Apr 13 2014, 07:35 PM Post #1419
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Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
well, you know how I feel about it regarding freedom. I think that as long as their agreement isn't infringing upon others rights and freedoms, then it is their business, not mine or my governments.
Makes sense. I'm trying to think of other things that might be exceptions and if so why or why not. How about selling drugs? I mean obviously drugs are illegal, but if it's just me buying some off of my buddy and using them in the privacy of my own home, then technically it shouldn't be illegal?
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Mr Gray Apr 14 2014, 07:11 AM Post #1420
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sirbrianwilson
Apr 2 2014, 12:17 AM
eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
well, you know how I feel about it regarding freedom. I think that as long as their agreement isn't infringing upon others rights and freedoms, then it is their business, not mine or my governments.
Makes sense. I'm trying to think of other things that might be exceptions and if so why or why not. How about selling drugs? I mean obviously drugs are illegal, but if it's just me buying some off of my buddy and using them in the privacy of my own home, then technically it shouldn't be illegal?
I don't think that should be illegal either. The case against drugs is that they have an overall negative impact on society, but I believe that freedom should trump that. If you want to make the case that certain heavy drugs should be illegal because the user becomes a danger to society, thus potentially impacting other's freedoms, then I believe the answer is tougher punishments for the crimes he/she commits on drugs....not the use of drugs themselves. Allow us to be responsible for our actions, and ultimately we will become more responsible.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon Apr 14 2014, 08:01 AM Post #1421
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eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
well, you know how I feel about it regarding freedom. I think that as long as their agreement isn't infringing upon others rights and freedoms, then it is their business, not mine or my governments.
Makes sense. I'm trying to think of other things that might be exceptions and if so why or why not. How about selling drugs? I mean obviously drugs are illegal, but if it's just me buying some off of my buddy and using them in the privacy of my own home, then technically it shouldn't be illegal?
I don't think that should be illegal either. The case against drugs is that they have an overall negative impact on society, but I believe that freedom should trump that. If you want to make the case that certain heavy drugs should be illegal because the user becomes a danger to society, thus potentially impacting other's freedoms, then I believe the answer is tougher punishments for the crimes he/she commits on drugs....not the use of drugs themselves. Allow us to be responsible for our actions, and ultimately we will become more responsible.
We do't have a clapping emoticon but I would use it here. Applaud your consistency on the topic.

Let me ask your opinion on something and this isn't a trap question. I honestly don't know the answer. Which do you think is a better deterrent for something like drugs: stiffer penalties or regulating them so much that they're difficult to attain in the first place? Personally, I suspect both methods are equally ineffective.
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Mr Gray Apr 14 2014, 08:20 AM Post #1422
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eh?
Just been trying to get you to answer a question that directly relates to your position. You often just disappear when you can't back up your comments.
I actually just haven't read it.

br
yeah....OK. Well, just to make it easy for you, here is the question again.

Who's business is it to intervene in a private compensation agreement between 2 adults? If you agree to mow my grass for $20, even though you know it will take you 5 hours, is that anyone else's business brian. why or why not?
I realize this is about minimum wage, but would it also apply to things like prostitution? Gambling? In other words, at what point, if any, should the agreement between 2 adults be deemed illegal?
well, you know how I feel about it regarding freedom. I think that as long as their agreement isn't infringing upon others rights and freedoms, then it is their business, not mine or my governments.
Makes sense. I'm trying to think of other things that might be exceptions and if so why or why not. How about selling drugs? I mean obviously drugs are illegal, but if it's just me buying some off of my buddy and using them in the privacy of my own home, then technically it shouldn't be illegal?
I don't think that should be illegal either. The case against drugs is that they have an overall negative impact on society, but I believe that freedom should trump that. If you want to make the case that certain heavy drugs should be illegal because the user becomes a danger to society, thus potentially impacting other's freedoms, then I believe the answer is tougher punishments for the crimes he/she commits on drugs....not the use of drugs themselves. Allow us to be responsible for our actions, and ultimately we will become more responsible.
We do't have a clapping emoticon but I would use it here. Applaud your consistency on the topic.

Let me ask your opinion on something and this isn't a trap question. I honestly don't know the answer. Which do you think is a better deterrent for something like drugs: stiffer penalties or regulating them so much that they're difficult to attain in the first place? Personally, I suspect both methods are equally ineffective.
I would say that regulating them is a better deterrent to use, but stiffer punishment that eventually creates responsibility is a better deterrent to abuse. I believe that abuse is the potential threat to society...not use.
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Let me ask your opinion on something and this isn't a trap question. I honestly don't know the answer. Which do you think is a better deterrent for something like drugs: stiffer penalties or regulating them so much that they're difficult to attain in the first place? Personally, I suspect both methods are equally ineffective.
Make ANYONE receiving government money take random drug tests. Fail a test, and you lose your benefits. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
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Let me ask your opinion on something and this isn't a trap question. I honestly don't know the answer. Which do you think is a better deterrent for something like drugs: stiffer penalties or regulating them so much that they're difficult to attain in the first place? Personally, I suspect both methods are equally ineffective.
Make ANYONE receiving government money take random drug tests. Fail a test, and you lose your benefits. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
Is your reasoning that if they can afford drugs, they don't need benefits?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon Apr 14 2014, 08:05 PM Post #1425
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Let me ask your opinion on something and this isn't a trap question. I honestly don't know the answer. Which do you think is a better deterrent for something like drugs: stiffer penalties or regulating them so much that they're difficult to attain in the first place? Personally, I suspect both methods are equally ineffective.
Make ANYONE receiving government money take random drug tests. Fail a test, and you lose your benefits. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
I agree with drug testing welfare recipients, but I think you are WAY off in assuming that welfare recipients are such a major drug use group that that would have any impact.
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