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luke fischer report
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Rockspeed Mar 10 2013, 12:54 AM Post #16
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I think next years freshmen class will definitely play more productive minutes than this years class did. After see this years class, I think next years class will certainly be better, although less hyped.
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the bar's not exactly been set high.

that being said, can see vonleh, lewis, stan and luke all logging good minutes. very different from this year...but could work out well...maybe...
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Rockspeed Mar 10 2013, 01:14 AM Post #18
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the bar's not exactly been set high.

that being said, can see vonleh, lewis, stan and luke all logging good minutes. very different from this year...but could work out well...maybe...
very true about the bar not being set too high but I see 4 players in next years 6 man class that could log very productive minutes for us. If Cody stays <not even going to talk about VO staying> I see us having a great nucleus that could really be ready for a deep run into the 2014 tourny
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the bar's not exactly been set high.

that being said, can see vonleh, lewis, stan and luke all logging good minutes. very different from this year...but could work out well...maybe...
very true about the bar not being set too high but I see 4 players in next years 6 man class that could log very productive minutes for us. If Cody stays <not even going to talk about VO staying> I see us having a great nucleus that could really be ready for a deep run into the 2014 tourny
i agree that cody has to stay for that to happen
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TheBliver Mar 10 2013, 09:25 AM Post #20
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the bar's not exactly been set high.

that being said, can see vonleh, lewis, stan and luke all logging good minutes. very different from this year...but could work out well...maybe...
Who is Lewis? I take it you're talking about Williams. He is a monster athlete, poor defensively, but that is expected playing for Oak Hill...decent shooter, solid around the rim, especially when he's in the air and loves to take it to the hoop.
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If Zeller leaves early, Fischer and Hanner will split time picking up the minutes left from Zeller. Hollowell and Vonleh will help pick up some of the scoring left from Zeller and VO leaving, but the key word is help. The scoring will have to be picked up by Sheehey and Yogi and it really scares me that we have to depend on Sheehey being our number 1 or 2 option. That guy has not been shooting well from outside since the B1G season started. I don't have the exact stats for B1G play, but overall he shoots 49.8% and 35.5% from 3 pt range. Like most everyone's elses stats, his are skewed from our pre-conference schedule. I bet his 3 point percentage in the B1G is 25% or less. (Brum chime in with the percentage anytime.) That said, he will have to improve a great deal for us to finish in the top 5 in the B1G and make the dance. With all that said, I feel Yogi will increase his scoring considerably and is capable of doing it more than Sheehey will be.

But with the possible loses, this team will most likely be a middle of the road type team and could end up on the bubble, unless Vonleh is a real stud and he could be. He is rated high enough and Hollowell maybe capable as well. Needless to say, next year will be intereting.

This year is the year for this team to reach the final 4 and possilbly win it.
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3pt FG% 32
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Thanks for the stats. Those aren't good numbers, especially his free throw percentage. I was surprised his 3 pt percentage was that high, but not really good numbers, IMO. Since the B1G started, that guy has really tapered off his productivity. Probably because of the competition he has played against in the B1G.

The guy has a world of potential to be a very good player, but I haven't seen that yet this year in the B1G. Maybe he will have a breakout game today against Michigan. :chug:
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McGary plays really stupid and borderline dirty....
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I dont view what happened between him and Zeller as dirty... he leaned into Zeller and Zeller fell but nothing dirty about it, IMO
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I dont view what happened between him and Zeller as dirty... he leaned into Zeller and Zeller fell but nothing dirty about it, IMO
What was the point of leaning into him in that situation?
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I dont view what happened between him and Zeller as dirty... he leaned into Zeller and Zeller fell but nothing dirty about it, IMO
What was the point of leaning into him in that situation?
I dont think it was to knock him down. McGary is a BIG guy, he came in at 250. That's not a lot more than Zeller. That being said, when he leaned into Zeller, they were getting to that point where they were going to put a body on each other <somewhere around the FT line> so he may have been prepping to fight for position. I think more than anything Zeller lost his balance but I can't say McGary pushed him down on purpose.
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I dont view what happened between him and Zeller as dirty... he leaned into Zeller and Zeller fell but nothing dirty about it, IMO
What was the point of leaning into him in that situation?
I dont think it was to knock him down. McGary is a BIG guy, he came in at 250. That's not a lot more than Zeller. That being said, when he leaned into Zeller, they were getting to that point where they were going to put a body on each other <somewhere around the FT line> so he may have been prepping to fight for position. I think more than anything Zeller lost his balance but I can't say McGary pushed him down on purpose.
Calling it like I saw it, Zeller went down awfully easy there. McGary fouled him, no doubt. But he didn't really push him or throw a hip or anything. It was a body bump on the way down the court. Don't think there was enough to send Zeller flying to the floor like he did.
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Zeller flopped on that play. I don't particularly like McGary, but it was a big time flop.
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Zeller most definitely flopped. However, I saw it as a heady play that got the reaction from the refs that he wanted it too.
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Why is it such a big deal when Sheehey or Zeller "flop" to get a foul? We've played plenty of teams all year that have flopped against us. Brandon Paul looked like a fish out water he was flopping so much in the final minutes at Illinois. Mbakwe was physical and pushing people around all night at Minnesota, but flopped several times against much smaller players on IU. Butler gave the rest of the NCAA the idea that IU was soft, and several teams/players (Mbakwe, McGary, etc.) have come out and tried to play very physical. I hate flopping just as much as everyone else, but it's often rewarded and IMO, IU would benefit from flopping more often in these circumstances. A few falls forward when Mbakwe puts his elbow in a guy's back and shoves them under the basket may have changed the way the game was played/called.
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I dont view what happened between him and Zeller as dirty... he leaned into Zeller and Zeller fell but nothing dirty about it, IMO
What was the point of leaning into him in that situation?
I dont think it was to knock him down. McGary is a BIG guy, he came in at 250. That's not a lot more than Zeller. That being said, when he leaned into Zeller, they were getting to that point where they were going to put a body on each other <somewhere around the FT line> so he may have been prepping to fight for position. I think more than anything Zeller lost his balance but I can't say McGary pushed him down on purpose.
Calling it like I saw it, Zeller went down awfully easy there. McGary fouled him, no doubt. But he didn't really push him or throw a hip or anything. It was a body bump on the way down the court. Don't think there was enough to send Zeller flying to the floor like he did.
Sure Zeller went flying, but that is really no different the players flying backwards trying to draw a charge after taking a shoulder to the chest, which literally happens all the time. Not sure why Zeller is getting crap for it.
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