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Crean Altercation
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brumdog44 Mar 11 2013, 11:36 PM Post #61
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I'm not a fan of what he did.....but really, who gives a fuck. That's the least interesting coaching 'feud' in the history of feuds. It sure as hell wasn't Knight/Henson or Chaney/Calipari.
I don't think its a major deal, but its just a head scratcher. Meyer has been at U of M for Crean's entire Indiana tenure, and they've already played once this season, so why address it on the court after clinching a B1G title? And why even address it at all, seems like the program has moved on and is doing just alright.
Would that not leave you to believe that there was more to it than what we saw on camera?
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Honestly, I can understand CTC's reaction. Seriously, look at what he's been through. I highly doubt this wasn't prompted by something earlier in the night. He's been on a mission and taken the high road on everything during his whole tenure with IU. Let those emotions run.

Believe me, I'd be much more harsh standing in front of any Sampson-era coach. WAY more.

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From the two articles I posted, it's looking like it had something to do with Blackmon being at the game
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I'm not a fan of what he did.....but really, who gives a fuck. That's the least interesting coaching 'feud' in the history of feuds. It sure as hell wasn't Knight/Henson or Chaney/Calipari.
I don't think its a major deal, but its just a head scratcher. Meyer has been at U of M for Crean's entire Indiana tenure, and they've already played once this season, so why address it on the court after clinching a B1G title? And why even address it at all, seems like the program has moved on and is doing just alright.
Would that not leave you to believe that there was more to it than what we saw on camera?
I couldn't imagine a scenario that would justify the way he acted unless Meyer did something personal, and at that point, I don't think bringing up Meyer's past at Indiana would be the topic.

I'm not the biggest Tom Crean fan in the world, so it really wouldn't surprise me that he acted the way he did over something seemingly insignificant at this point.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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From the two articles I posted, it's looking like it had something to do with Blackmon being at the game
That's all really just speculation though.
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I'm not the biggest Tom Crean fan in the world, so it really wouldn't surprise me that he acted the way he did over something seemingly insignificant at this point.
Should he have had the confrontation? No.

But the insignificant part is that people would even bother to consider the confrontation a significant event.

But I do find it interesting that you give Crean crap for something so miniscule as this while Cal's two vacated final fours were just bad luck.
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Honestly, I can understand CTC's reaction. Seriously, look at what he's been through. I highly doubt this wasn't prompted by something earlier in the night. He's been on a mission and taken the high road on everything during his whole tenure with IU. Let those emotions run.

Believe me, I'd be much more harsh standing in front of any Sampson-era coach. WAY more.

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He certainly hasn't taken the high road on everything. He's made public comments about other schools negative recruiting against Indiana (including naming schools) and that twitter rant about coaches waking up on third base thinking they hit a triple and that there were coaches in the conference that he wouldn't let valet his car.

And you should be much more harsh, you are a FAN. He's the coach of the program, acting like that is not a positive for the program IMO.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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From the two articles I posted, it's looking like it had something to do with Blackmon being at the game
That's all really just speculation though.
exactly... nothing concrete but it would stand to reason. Hopefully more of the story comes out. I didn't realize anyone from our sampson debacle days was anywhere in coaching in the B1G. It would concern me as a coach if someone, who was in the middle of a cheating scandal with another school, had my verbally committed guard at his school. It would be nice to see the light shed on this subject and if that happens, I wouldn't be surprised to see some smoke rising from the guy... and I only say that based off his history with us, even though the ncaa found no wrong doing on his part
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I'm not a fan of what he did.....but really, who gives a fuck. That's the least interesting coaching 'feud' in the history of feuds. It sure as hell wasn't Knight/Henson or Chaney/Calipari.
I don't think its a major deal, but its just a head scratcher. Meyer has been at U of M for Crean's entire Indiana tenure, and they've already played once this season, so why address it on the court after clinching a B1G title? And why even address it at all, seems like the program has moved on and is doing just alright.
This is exactly why I think there was something said in the handshake line or some other factor that sparked this reaction
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Honestly, I can understand CTC's reaction. Seriously, look at what he's been through. I highly doubt this wasn't prompted by something earlier in the night. He's been on a mission and taken the high road on everything during his whole tenure with IU. Let those emotions run.

Believe me, I'd be much more harsh standing in front of any Sampson-era coach. WAY more.

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He certainly hasn't taken the high road on everything. He's made public comments about other schools negative recruiting against Indiana (including naming schools) and that twitter rant about coaches waking up on third base thinking they hit a triple and that there were coaches in the conference that he wouldn't let valet his car.

And you should be much more harsh, you are a FAN. He's the coach of the program, acting like that is not a positive for the program IMO.
LOL at you being harsh on the coaches at a school you root for. Until this year, you and Painter should have rented a room.
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Honestly, I can understand CTC's reaction. Seriously, look at what he's been through. I highly doubt this wasn't prompted by something earlier in the night. He's been on a mission and taken the high road on everything during his whole tenure with IU. Let those emotions run.

Believe me, I'd be much more harsh standing in front of any Sampson-era coach. WAY more.

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He certainly hasn't taken the high road on everything. He's made public comments about other schools negative recruiting against Indiana (including naming schools) and that twitter rant about coaches waking up on third base thinking they hit a triple and that there were coaches in the conference that he wouldn't let valet his car.

And you should be much more harsh, you are a FAN. He's the coach of the program, acting like that is not a positive for the program IMO.
Get a grip cammy, the day was a volcanic explosion of emotion. How many times have you let your emotions get the best of you? So you think just because you get paid millions that there should be no human emotion at all? Tell ya what... bring a program up from the ground up, starting with walk ons, while enduring the lies and back stabbing that comes with recruiting and build it to what IU is day, meaning relevant and see if you don't get emotional. The thing is, when you get emotional, SOMETIMES you say things that maybe should have been kept behind closed doors. His comments didn't hurt anyone, did they?

Those teams of yours, including purdue, got used to beating up on IU the last couple of years and now that we're not the cupcake we had been for 3 years, it's annoying to you because it was only temporary. We're back on top cammy... we're back bro... we're back..

Oh, in case you hadn't heard... we're back.

GO HOOSIERS!
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I finally got to watch it and read Dana O'Neil's article. She is spot on what she wrote in that article.

I just want to say one thing that I got from a wise man: "It is the second person that starts the argument".

Just ponder and think about those words for a moment ant think back to the incident and who was the second person. Be a man and just walk away.
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I finally got to watch it and read Dana O'Neil's article. She is spot on what she wrote in that article.

I just want to say one thing that I got from a wise man: "It is the second person that starts the argument".

Just ponder and think about those words for a moment ant think back to the incident and who was the second person. Be a man and just walk away.
I don't disagree.

But I would like to add that it's the third person who wasn't involved in the argument that tries to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was. ESPN is never going to take the 'nothing to see hear here' point of view.
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I finally got to watch it and read Dana O'Neil's article. She is spot on what she wrote in that article.

I just want to say one thing that I got from a wise man: "It is the second person that starts the argument".

Just ponder and think about those words for a moment ant think back to the incident and who was the second person. Be a man and just walk away.
I don't disagree.

But I would like to add that it's the third person who wasn't involved in the argument that tries to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was. ESPN is never going to take the 'nothing to see hear here' point of view.
I agree. The media is most likely blowing this way out of proportion anyway, as they usually do.

All-in-all, it probably wasn't as big of a deal as what the media made it out to be.
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I finally got to watch it and read Dana O'Neil's article. She is spot on what she wrote in that article.

I just want to say one thing that I got from a wise man: "It is the second person that starts the argument".

Just ponder and think about those words for a moment ant think back to the incident and who was the second person. Be a man and just walk away.
I don't disagree.

But I would like to add that it's the third person who wasn't involved in the argument that tries to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was. ESPN is never going to take the 'nothing to see hear here' point of view.
The only reason this is even a story is because ESPN wants to make it a story. They tried the same thing with VCU and Shaka smart last year until Sheehey caught that block. It will make for a great story if IU and UM play in the Big Ten or NCAA tournament. All ESPN cares about is clicks, and ratings. I for one have absolutely no problem with what happened. Jeff Meyer helped rape IU's program. Illegal phone calls, illegal benefits, illegal contact. One of the players he recruited is serving 15 year in prison for stuff he did in high school. You don't recruit players like that and hope for the best. Something was obviously said before CTC and Meyer talked. It doesn't matter whether it was during the game or if Buckley was talking about recruiting IU's commit. CTC shouldn't give an inch.
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