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Crean Altercation
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Topic Started: Mar 10 2013, 11:35 PM (1,049 Views)
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Mar 12 2013, 02:01 PM
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Mar 12 2013, 02:07 PM
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Mar 12 2013, 02:17 PM
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So multiple media members at the game via Twitter suggested that there was a previous dust-up between Crean and Meyer in the handshake line in which Meyer told Crean to "f off" or "GFY" and Buckley stepped in to calm the situation. Who knows why it boiled over now, and maybe Crean instigated that too, but everybody besides Crean and Meyer would just be speculating. But I'll continue to speculate and say that if Meyer did say that unprovoked, then I'd say the most classless thing was Beilein not addressing it all, UM not making Meyer available to media, and Beilein effectively blaming it all on Crean saying that Michigan "wins and loses with class." I have a hard time believing that nothing happened prior to Crean's outburst and Buckley and Meyer were just casually chit-chatting and making dinner plans on the floor after the handshake line.
Either way, Crean's outburst was way overblown. He didn't even curse.
I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference? Who knows. But there's definitely a disparity in the coverage. For instance, take Coach K's outburst after getting the court stormed on them. Complete sour grapes that took away the attention from the opponent's big win, but the media covers it like Coach K is a saint and was in imminent danger. If Tom Crean did the same, he'd be a "sore loser" and an asshole.
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Mar 12 2013, 02:37 PM
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that's a quality photo right there. br That's awesome.
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Mar 12 2013, 02:44 PM
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So multiple media members at the game via Twitter suggested that there was a previous dust-up between Crean and Meyer in the handshake line in which Meyer told Crean to "f off" or "GFY" and Buckley stepped in to calm the situation. Who knows why it boiled over now, and maybe Crean instigated that too, but everybody besides Crean and Meyer would just be speculating. But I'll continue to speculate and say that if Meyer did say that unprovoked, then I'd say the most classless thing was Beilein not addressing it all, UM not making Meyer available to media, and Beilein effectively blaming it all on Crean saying that Michigan "wins and loses with class." I have a hard time believing that nothing happened prior to Crean's outburst and Buckley and Meyer were just casually chit-chatting and making dinner plans on the floor after the handshake line.
Either way, Crean's outburst was way overblown. He didn't even curse.
I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference? Who knows. But there's definitely a disparity in the coverage. For instance, take Coach K's outburst after getting the court stormed on them. Complete sour grapes that took away the attention from the opponent's big win, but the media covers it like Coach K is a saint and was in imminent danger. If Tom Crean did the same, he'd be a "sore loser" and an asshole.
What would their respective motivations be for starting something in the line? I heard the thing about Blackmon being there, dirty recruiting.
These guys have met in a handshake line before. What was different that day?
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Mar 12 2013, 02:50 PM
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So multiple media members at the game via Twitter suggested that there was a previous dust-up between Crean and Meyer in the handshake line in which Meyer told Crean to "f off" or "GFY" and Buckley stepped in to calm the situation. Who knows why it boiled over now, and maybe Crean instigated that too, but everybody besides Crean and Meyer would just be speculating. But I'll continue to speculate and say that if Meyer did say that unprovoked, then I'd say the most classless thing was Beilein not addressing it all, UM not making Meyer available to media, and Beilein effectively blaming it all on Crean saying that Michigan "wins and loses with class." I have a hard time believing that nothing happened prior to Crean's outburst and Buckley and Meyer were just casually chit-chatting and making dinner plans on the floor after the handshake line.
Either way, Crean's outburst was way overblown. He didn't even curse.
I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference? Who knows. But there's definitely a disparity in the coverage. For instance, take Coach K's outburst after getting the court stormed on them. Complete sour grapes that took away the attention from the opponent's big win, but the media covers it like Coach K is a saint and was in imminent danger. If Tom Crean did the same, he'd be a "sore loser" and an asshole.
What would their respective motivations be for starting something in the line? I heard the thing about Blackmon being there, dirty recruiting. These guys have met in a handshake line before. What was different that day? Dunno. Earlier someone said Stauskas said something to the IU bench, Crean yelled at Stauskas, Meyer yelled at Crean. Coulda been that. Coulda been they started chatting a bit in the line before Meyer then said "fuck you" or something.
Either way I think it's obvious something happened beforehand. As illogical as it sounds to say Meyer randomly told Crean to go fuck himself for no reason, it sounds just as illogical to say that in the middle of celebrating the win postgame, Crean ran around trying to find Meyer so he could tell him off for no reason.
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Mar 12 2013, 03:00 PM
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"As illogical as it sounds to say Meyer randomly told Crean to go fuck himself for no reason"
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Mar 12 2013, 03:01 PM
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So multiple media members at the game via Twitter suggested that there was a previous dust-up between Crean and Meyer in the handshake line in which Meyer told Crean to "f off" or "GFY" and Buckley stepped in to calm the situation. Who knows why it boiled over now, and maybe Crean instigated that too, but everybody besides Crean and Meyer would just be speculating. But I'll continue to speculate and say that if Meyer did say that unprovoked, then I'd say the most classless thing was Beilein not addressing it all, UM not making Meyer available to media, and Beilein effectively blaming it all on Crean saying that Michigan "wins and loses with class." I have a hard time believing that nothing happened prior to Crean's outburst and Buckley and Meyer were just casually chit-chatting and making dinner plans on the floor after the handshake line.
Either way, Crean's outburst was way overblown. He didn't even curse.
I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference? Who knows. But there's definitely a disparity in the coverage. For instance, take Coach K's outburst after getting the court stormed on them. Complete sour grapes that took away the attention from the opponent's big win, but the media covers it like Coach K is a saint and was in imminent danger. If Tom Crean did the same, he'd be a "sore loser" and an asshole.
What would their respective motivations be for starting something in the line? I heard the thing about Blackmon being there, dirty recruiting. These guys have met in a handshake line before. What was different that day?
Dunno. Earlier someone said Stauskas said something to the IU bench, Crean yelled at Stauskas, Meyer yelled at Crean. Coulda been that. Coulda been they started chatting a bit in the line before Meyer then said "fuck you" or something. Either way I think it's obvious something happened beforehand. As illogical as it sounds to say Meyer randomly told Crean to go fuck himself for no reason, it sounds just as illogical to say that in the middle of celebrating the win postgame, Crean ran around trying to find Meyer so he could tell him off for no reason. Agreed. Something said in the line definitely led to Crean's........uh......"mistake".
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Mar 12 2013, 03:07 PM
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Mar 12 2013, 03:17 PM
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So multiple media members at the game via Twitter suggested that there was a previous dust-up between Crean and Meyer in the handshake line in which Meyer told Crean to "f off" or "GFY" and Buckley stepped in to calm the situation. Who knows why it boiled over now, and maybe Crean instigated that too, but everybody besides Crean and Meyer would just be speculating. But I'll continue to speculate and say that if Meyer did say that unprovoked, then I'd say the most classless thing was Beilein not addressing it all, UM not making Meyer available to media, and Beilein effectively blaming it all on Crean saying that Michigan "wins and loses with class." I have a hard time believing that nothing happened prior to Crean's outburst and Buckley and Meyer were just casually chit-chatting and making dinner plans on the floor after the handshake line.
Either way, Crean's outburst was way overblown. He didn't even curse.
I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference? Who knows. But there's definitely a disparity in the coverage. For instance, take Coach K's outburst after getting the court stormed on them. Complete sour grapes that took away the attention from the opponent's big win, but the media covers it like Coach K is a saint and was in imminent danger. If Tom Crean did the same, he'd be a "sore loser" and an asshole.
What would their respective motivations be for starting something in the line? I heard the thing about Blackmon being there, dirty recruiting. These guys have met in a handshake line before. What was different that day?
Dunno. Earlier someone said Stauskas said something to the IU bench, Crean yelled at Stauskas, Meyer yelled at Crean. Coulda been that. Coulda been they started chatting a bit in the line before Meyer then said "fuck you" or something. Either way I think it's obvious something happened beforehand. As illogical as it sounds to say Meyer randomly told Crean to go fuck himself for no reason, it sounds just as illogical to say that in the middle of celebrating the win postgame, Crean ran around trying to find Meyer so he could tell him off for no reason. Agree with both of you. I have no idea what would have prompted Meyer to say it. After the game, Crean said something like "I shouldn't have brought it to the handshake line" so maybe Crean instigated it, maybe he was referring to bringing his negative feelings toward Meyer to the handshake and not just walking away from it. It's all speculation, but the media seems more than willing to speculate negatively that Crean was out of line and unprompted rather than putting two-and-two together and speculating about (or investigating) something happened before that.
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Mar 12 2013, 03:33 PM
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I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference?
Crean's not exactly sunshine and lollipops when he addresses the media, I'd think that may be part of the reason why the press isn't huge fans of his. I think the things he's said about other coaches would probably explain why he isn't best friends with many other coaches (and I don't really think that matters, he's not at Indiana to be friends with the coaches at other schools, he's there to win).
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Mar 12 2013, 03:40 PM
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I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference?
Crean's not exactly sunshine and lollipops when he addresses the media, I'd think that may be part of the reason why the press isn't huge fans of his. I think the things he's said about other coaches would probably explain why he isn't best friends with many other coaches (and I don't really think that matters, he's not at Indiana to be friends with the coaches at other schools, he's there to win). I can't imagine how anyone would know who Crean is or is not friends with. Who are Matt Painter's best coaching friends besides Bruce Weber?
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Mar 12 2013, 03:48 PM
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I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference?
Crean's not exactly sunshine and lollipops when he addresses the media, I'd think that may be part of the reason why the press isn't huge fans of his. I think the things he's said about other coaches would probably explain why he isn't best friends with many other coaches (and I don't really think that matters, he's not at Indiana to be friends with the coaches at other schools, he's there to win).
I can't imagine how anyone would know who Crean is or is not friends with. Who are Matt Painter's best coaching friends besides Bruce Weber? cuonzo martin
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I also don't think the media is against IU, but I certainly don't think their for Crean. A lot of coaches and media dislike Crean. I don't know why the media dislikes him, maybe because he frequently makes them wait for a long time after games for his press conference?
Crean's not exactly sunshine and lollipops when he addresses the media, I'd think that may be part of the reason why the press isn't huge fans of his. I think the things he's said about other coaches would probably explain why he isn't best friends with many other coaches (and I don't really think that matters, he's not at Indiana to be friends with the coaches at other schools, he's there to win).
I can't imagine how anyone would know who Crean is or is not friends with. Who are Matt Painter's best coaching friends besides Bruce Weber?
cuonzo martin Haha. touche.
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Mar 12 2013, 04:01 PM
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I can't imagine how anyone would know who Crean is or is not friends with. I would think a good indicator would be the fly by handshake Crean has done to certain coaches
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