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| Mr Gray | Apr 30 2013, 04:25 PM Post #16 |
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Brum, do you agree that if something is to be done with gun control, that we should address the largest area of gun problems, ie gang violence? I guess I'm asking, are the American people better served addressing the Adam Lanza's or the those who are killing thousands and thousands more than that? |
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| brumdog44 | Apr 30 2013, 04:54 PM Post #17 |
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IMO, the required background check for all gun exchanges/purchase is attempting to do something about the number of illegally obtained guns which does impact gangs. We know that most illegal guns started out legal. |
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| HoosierLars | Apr 30 2013, 05:04 PM Post #18 |
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Let's leave Obama's reelection out of this discussion. |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Apr 30 2013, 07:41 PM Post #19 |
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Really wasn't addressed to you but ill ask: So you agree when should be doing some electronic surveillance on people that are on the watch list? |
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| Mr Gray | Apr 30 2013, 07:58 PM Post #20 |
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Brum, could you elaborate on how required checks will keep guns out of the hands of illegals or gangs? I don't see it, but I might be missing something. |
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| sirbrianwilson | Apr 30 2013, 08:44 PM Post #21 |
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I never said that I was against tracking people of interest on terror lists. I said, if you want that, pony up and pay the government more to do so. Just as I would be more than willing to pay more for gun control/tracking measures. These are both really, really, really, really, really expensive things to do. Start voting and promoting tax increases to accomplish these things. It's not like they are something you can just start doing without a MAJOR overhaul and expansion of government. Tracking every single individual they receive a threat for...or even those who score higher on the person-of-interest scale is a MAJOR expansion of government. We're talking big, big, big government. br |
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| HoosierLars | Apr 30 2013, 09:23 PM Post #22 |
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We already have a big, big, big, big government. We should be talking about a stream-lined, more efficient government. But sadly, the latter is an oxymoron, which is why I lean right on fiscal matters. |
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| brumdog44 | Apr 30 2013, 09:56 PM Post #23 |
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Increasing the penalty for not running a background check to the seller would have an adverse affect on sales. |
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| Mr Gray | May 1 2013, 07:47 AM Post #24 |
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I guess my confusion comes from my perception of the type of people who are trafficking these guns to the criminals/felons/gangs...etc. He/she is already knowingly breaking the law with or without a background check. I'm not sure what will stop him from continuing to sell to them and just ignoring the background check law? I agree that increasing penalties would help, but I'm not making the connection to mandatory background checks. |
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| brumdog44 | May 1 2013, 03:59 PM Post #25 |
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Let me ask you a simple question: why would you not want a background check for the sale of a gun? I'm looking for a logical, non-slippery slope answer. Wayne LaPierre was for background checks at gun sales ten years ago. Why would you -- or he -- disagree with it now? |
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| dreachon | May 2 2013, 06:25 AM Post #26 |
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Classes for people buying guns and mandatory purchase of approved storage units. http://fox2now.com/2013/05/01/5-year-old-kentucky-boy-fatally-shoots-2-year-old-sister-2/ Edited by dreachon, May 2 2013, 06:31 AM.
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| realtivelynew | May 2 2013, 07:43 AM Post #27 |
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Are there child warnings on rifles? A 5 year old getting a rifle for their birthday oy vey |
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| Mr Gray | May 2 2013, 08:04 AM Post #28 |
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dreach, I understand your sentiment, but I'm not sure you've really looked at this in the big picture. There are around 600 accidental gun deaths each year in the US who has a population of 313 million people. Each one of those 600 deaths is tragic and avoidable, but I feel that creating national policy and mandatory action just isn't prudent for something that impacts only 0.00019% of the population. In contrast, about 30,000 people are killed each year due to accidental poisoning, but I'm certain that you don't expect every person who purchases bleach or anti-freeze to take a safety class and purchase approved storage units. As I said in my original post, I think policy should address areas where the most damage is being done. |
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| Mr Gray | May 2 2013, 08:09 AM Post #29 |
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I'm a big opponent of creating laws just to say that we "did something". I have no problem with background checks at gun shows, as I have said before this more closely resembles a commercial environment vs a private one. Outside of that, I see so-called "mandatory" background checks of private sales to be ineffective, thus placing a burden on responsible citizens with no societal gain. |
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| HoosierLars | May 2 2013, 09:32 AM Post #30 |
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Non-liberals tend to prefer more substance over style. |
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