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Mr Gray May 10 2013, 07:42 AM Post #106
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And back in the 60s when government was smaller, even less people cared because it was a smaller part of their life.

Using the claim that less people are knowledgeable about politics despite there being more information easily and readibly available is counterintuitive. Other than that being based on conjecture, I see no substance to it.
The difference, IMO, is not that there are more politically uneducated and non caring people, but that more of them are now voting. Pop culture reaches those types of people very well and has placed more importance on voting but not necessarily on understanding the issues.
I respectfully disagree. I think as people we romanticize the past.

Remember that JFK was losing to Nixon up until the first debate...and JFK overtook him because of how 'sweaty and old' looked on camera.
Remember though, that JFK incident is largely described as the first time that such physical factors really came into play because of the new television technology and its spreading reach into more homes. Our country has been around a lot longer than that, and the glamour and glitz aspect of campaigning certainly hasn't gone backwards from there brum.
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And back in the 60s when government was smaller, even less people cared because it was a smaller part of their life.

Using the claim that less people are knowledgeable about politics despite there being more information easily and readibly available is counterintuitive. Other than that being based on conjecture, I see no substance to it.
The difference, IMO, is not that there are more politically uneducated and non caring people, but that more of them are now voting. Pop culture reaches those types of people very well and has placed more importance on voting but not necessarily on understanding the issues.
I respectfully disagree. I think as people we romanticize the past.

Remember that JFK was losing to Nixon up until the first debate...and JFK overtook him because of how 'sweaty and old' looked on camera.
With all due respect, you are an ass clown.
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IUCOLTFAN May 10 2013, 01:26 PM Post #108
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And back in the 60s when government was smaller, even less people cared because it was a smaller part of their life.

Using the claim that less people are knowledgeable about politics despite there being more information easily and readibly available is counterintuitive. Other than that being based on conjecture, I see no substance to it.
I am talking about by percentage....I never said LESS people cared. I don't think cable, Internet, and social media have made more people interested in politics. Isn't your statement just conjecture also?
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Honestly, I don't think we've ever had a very informed voter base.

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Mr Gray May 10 2013, 02:05 PM Post #110
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Honestly, I don't think we've ever had a very informed voter base.

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Maybe not in the last 100 years or so anyway.
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sirbrianwilson May 10 2013, 02:08 PM Post #111
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Honestly, I don't think we've ever had a very informed voter base.

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Maybe not in the last 100 years or so anyway.
I'd say even longer than that.

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Honestly, I don't think we've ever had a very informed voter base.

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Maybe not in the last 100 years or so anyway.
I'd say even longer than that.

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Do elaborate....
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sirbrianwilson May 10 2013, 02:10 PM Post #113
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I don't think something happened in 1913 that suddenly dumbed down the political savvy of the country.

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Politics was a bigger part of people's lives earlier on in history, there wasn't near as much social activities to occupy people's time. Didn't we learn that in history class. Society wasnt instantly dumbed down....it took some time.
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HoosierLars May 10 2013, 04:02 PM Post #115
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I don't think something happened in 1913 that suddenly dumbed down the political savvy of the country.

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The hoards immigrating from the world's hell-holes gave them a good perspective of what this country offers. Also, many people were much more self-sufficient in those days, which helps keep your common sense skills honed.
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I think you guys have a very fanciful view of american history.

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I think you guys have a very fanciful view of american history.

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Which part of my previous statement do you disagree with?
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Mr Gray May 10 2013, 06:20 PM Post #118
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I think you guys have a very fanciful view of american history.

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I don't. My ancestry is full of American atrocities against them. I do, however, think that Presidents in the 19th century were elected much more on merit than today.
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I'd love to hear some of Brian's vast 19th century political and societal knowledge....
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you guys are so right. people in the 18th and 19th century were way more informed about politics that people nowadays. I'm sure they knew the positions of all of their representatives very well based on your hunches.

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