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Topic Started: Jul 23 2013, 06:11 AM (231 Views)
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Mr Gray
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Jul 25 2013, 07:58 AM
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- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue.
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*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
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dreachon
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Jul 25 2013, 08:17 AM
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- Mr Gray
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- Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM
- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated. Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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Mr Gray
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Jul 25 2013, 08:37 AM
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- dreachon
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- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to
Yes, which is 100% consistent with what I said that started this train of discussion. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8303797&t=7350602
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which creates a natural decline in our rate of reproduction.
And most economists would tell you that a decline in available resources is the primary factor in population rate decline, so I'm not sure why you would feel the need to insult me.
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon
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Jul 25 2013, 08:50 AM
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- Mr Gray
- Jul 25 2013, 07:58 AM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM
- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to
Yes, which is 100% consistent with what I said that started this train of discussion. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8303797&t=7350602- Quote:
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which creates a natural decline in our rate of reproduction.
And most economists would tell you that a decline in available resources is the primary factor in population rate decline, so I'm not sure why you would feel the need to insult me. Because you give no evidence to support your resource scarcity claim. You simply post a population graph and exclaim resource scarcity as the reason. Things like contraception and education somehow don't even factor in for you, which just sounds insane to me.
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Mr Gray
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Jul 25 2013, 09:11 AM
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- Mr Gray
- Jul 25 2013, 07:58 AM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM
- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to
Yes, which is 100% consistent with what I said that started this train of discussion. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8303797&t=7350602- Quote:
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which creates a natural decline in our rate of reproduction.
And most economists would tell you that a decline in available resources is the primary factor in population rate decline, so I'm not sure why you would feel the need to insult me.
Because you give no evidence to support your resource scarcity claim. You simply post a population graph and exclaim resource scarcity as the reason. Things like contraception and education somehow don't even factor in for you, which just sounds insane to me. There's always more than 1 factor, however China's decision to reduce their rate by force of law is obviously a factor in our global decline. It should seem obvious that while other nations aren't making it a law, they are aware that resource scarcity is a factor of consideration when planning a family...etc.
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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Mr Gray
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Jul 25 2013, 09:19 AM
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- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM
- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to
Yes, which is 100% consistent with what I said that started this train of discussion. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8303797&t=7350602- Quote:
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which creates a natural decline in our rate of reproduction.
And most economists would tell you that a decline in available resources is the primary factor in population rate decline, so I'm not sure why you would feel the need to insult me.
Because you give no evidence to support your resource scarcity claim. You simply post a population graph and exclaim resource scarcity as the reason. Things like contraception and education somehow don't even factor in for you, which just sounds insane to me. you need evidence to support the idea that resources become scarce as they are consumption increases due to rise in population? It's a very elementary concept, but just look at grain prices if you need evidence.
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon
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Jul 25 2013, 09:22 AM
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- dreachon
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- Mr Gray
- Jul 25 2013, 07:58 AM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:11 PM
- Mr Gray
- Jul 24 2013, 03:08 PM
- dreachon
- Jul 24 2013, 03:04 PM
I'm not sure why we should wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population to do anything. Even if you wholheartedly believe global warming is a figment of the liberal imagination, the other benefits of "going green" make this a no brainer. The idea that we should just sit around until we collapse on ourselves seems incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
you do not "wait until resource scarcity diminishes our population" dreach....it is a constant process.....you don't just wait and then all of a sudden start diminishing the population.
Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No. Will it eventually? Yes. That means at some point it starts to diminish our population. It may be constant process but it has to start somewhere.
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Is resource scarcity holding our population in check now? No.
That is incorrect dreach...our population growth rate peaked in the 60s, and has declined ever since...which is a trend that is expected to continue. Posted Image*Note, this chart was through 2004, however if you look at recent data, the trend has continued approximately at the rate that this chart estimated.
Haha. Got it. So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to, that the reason for this slow down is resource scarcity? There couldn't be ANY other reasons? How do you even take yourself seriously? :facepalm:
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So you're posting that because the population is growing, but not quite as fast as it used to
Yes, which is 100% consistent with what I said that started this train of discussion. http://s15.zetaboards.com/Our_Hoosier_Board/single/?p=8303797&t=7350602- Quote:
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which creates a natural decline in our rate of reproduction.
And most economists would tell you that a decline in available resources is the primary factor in population rate decline, so I'm not sure why you would feel the need to insult me.
Because you give no evidence to support your resource scarcity claim. You simply post a population graph and exclaim resource scarcity as the reason. Things like contraception and education somehow don't even factor in for you, which just sounds insane to me.
you need evidence to support the idea that resources become scarce as they are consumption increases due to rise in population? It's a very elementary concept, but just look at grain prices if you need evidence. No, I need evidence to support the notion that the graph you posted showing a slow in population growth is mainly due to resource scarcity.
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