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No health insurance?
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dreachon Aug 1 2013, 09:34 AM Post #16
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
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I want to say that I am totally with you guys on the fact that an ACA call center switching positions from full-time to part-time in order to avoid paying healthcare costs is obvious hypocrisy. I've stated that already. I'm just pointing out that for all that people complain on here about "playing politics", this is a perfect example. Because if the call center hires more staff than they need or gives health benefits to part time employees or whatever, the cost of that call center is going to be highlighted in order to bash the ACA or the Obama administration. There's no solution to this where Colt doesn't post an article complaining about this call center.
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
ding ding ding
I want to say that I am totally with you guys on the fact that an ACA call center switching positions from full-time to part-time in order to avoid paying healthcare costs is obvious hypocrisy. I've stated that already. I'm just pointing out that for all that people complain on here about "playing politics", this is a perfect example. Because if the call center hires more staff than they need or gives health benefits to part time employees or whatever, the cost of that call center is going to be highlighted in order to bash the ACA or the Obama administration. There's no solution to this where Colt doesn't post an article complaining about this call center.
The solution is to actually implement policies that improve health care and reduce costs, e.g. tort reform and allowing open insurance competition to eliminate any excessive profits.
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dreachon Aug 1 2013, 11:06 AM Post #18
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The solution is to actually implement policies that improve health care and reduce costs, e.g. tort reform and allowing open insurance competition to eliminate any excessive profits.
Obviously I was speaking of a solution the call center's hiring procedures, not to American healthcare.
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brumdog44 Aug 1 2013, 11:10 AM Post #19
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
I said exactly that --that they hired part timers to avoid paying insurance costs. Re-read my post. Dreach said the same thing. So stop with the 'hopelessly committed to Obama' lines.
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
I said exactly that --that they hired part timers to avoid paying insurance costs. Re-read my post. Dreach said the same thing. So stop with the 'hopelessly committed to Obama' lines.
you're right...although you did provide some level of justification for this action, my comment was mostly directed at dreach.
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dreachon Aug 1 2013, 11:23 AM Post #21
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Um. Ok.
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brumdog44 Aug 1 2013, 11:28 AM Post #22
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
I said exactly that --that they hired part timers to avoid paying insurance costs. Re-read my post. Dreach said the same thing. So stop with the 'hopelessly committed to Obama' lines.
you're right...although you did provide some level of justification for this action, my comment was mostly directed at dreach.
Dreach's point was that it is a story against Obamacare whether they hire part timers or full timers because it either shows hypocrisy or wasteful spending. I'm not sure how that is an example of ardent support of Obama.
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
I said exactly that --that they hired part timers to avoid paying insurance costs. Re-read my post. Dreach said the same thing. So stop with the 'hopelessly committed to Obama' lines.
you're right...although you did provide some level of justification for this action, my comment was mostly directed at dreach.
Dreach's point was that it is a story against Obamacare whether they hire part timers or full timers because it either shows hypocrisy or wasteful spending. I'm not sure how that is an example of ardent support of Obama.
that's BS...if it shows "wasteful spending" then that is even a worse indictment of Obamacare, because it implies that spending on healthcare is wasteful.
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WHICH IS WHAT I'M SAYING. Both ways it is a strike against it.
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dreachon
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Not to mention one of the arguments I've heard on here against minimum wage is that "any job is better than no job". Why isn't the call center be bashed for hiring all part time employees and giving more people jobs?

So like I said in the beginning, no matter what they did there's be an article out there complaining.
brum, dreach...come on now. It is clear to anyone who isn't hopelessly committed to Obama that this group made the move to part time employees to avoid the costs of the program that they are hired to support....utterly ridiculous! If Obamacare is providing great affordable healthcare, then why would anyone try to avoid it, and why would they receive any criticism for providing it to their employees?
I said exactly that --that they hired part timers to avoid paying insurance costs. Re-read my post. Dreach said the same thing. So stop with the 'hopelessly committed to Obama' lines.
you're right...although you did provide some level of justification for this action, my comment was mostly directed at dreach.
Dreach's point was that it is a story against Obamacare whether they hire part timers or full timers because it either shows hypocrisy or wasteful spending. I'm not sure how that is an example of ardent support of Obama.
that's BS...if it shows "wasteful spending" then that is even a worse indictment of Obamacare, because it implies that spending on healthcare is wasteful.
THANK YOU for making my point.
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I don't care if its full-time, part-time, minimum wage, needed, not-needed, etc.....IF you are doing something to advert your own law (one that is so great), preach about healthcare for all and totally demagogue the issue, have to balls to offer healthcare and stand up for your principles that you CLAIM to have. Shouldn't matters if others think its wasteful if it is your core belief and the ACA is your crowning accomplishment. The problem is, IMO, that the ACA wasn't about healthcare for all......this helps prove that.
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I don't care if its full-time, part-time, minimum wage, needed, not-needed, etc.....IF you are doing something to advert your own law (one that is so great), preach about healthcare for all and totally demagogue the issue, have to balls to offer healthcare and stand up for your principles that you CLAIM to have. Shouldn't matters if others think its wasteful if it is your core belief and the ACA is your crowning accomplishment. The problem is, IMO, that the ACA wasn't about healthcare for all......this helps prove that.
The ACA was designed to blow-up the private system and lead to a government takeover. Obama and other Dems were clear about wanting a single-payer government system, but couldn't pass that. This is why they were so desperate to pass ANYTHING.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/01/Report-Lawmakers-Congressional-Aides-to-Get-Obamacare-Exemptions

Wow. The gift that keeps on giving.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/07/us-usa-health-congress-idUSBRE9760YL20130807?


Sweet!

How much more unpopular does this make the law? What's good enough for you is not good enough for congress and their staff members. Amazing...
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http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/06/news/economy/obamacare-premiums/index.html
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